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Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

I think they're only backing it now because of the backlash against Gates. They sure took their sweet time, either way.

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

It looks like you're probably just trying to troll, but to head off additional discussion: Gates has some stuff mis-attributed to him and the very next day after initial reports, Gates disputed reports that he backs the FBI in the Apple dispute:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-02-23/gates-disput...

A better troll might've pointed out the disparity between Microsoft supporting Apple's stances and the circumstantial evidence that seems to indicate that Microsoft actively worked with the NSA to backdoor its services (Outlook.com, Skype, etc)

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

Also Gates consults with Microsoft occasionally and is a large stakeholder but that does not mean Gates speaks for Microsoft, or that Microsoft speaks for Gates. In fact, they disagree pretty regularly.

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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post #2

Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

It looks like you're probably just trying to troll, but to head off additional discussion: Gates has some stuff mis-attributed to him and the very next day after initial reports, Gates disputed reports that he backs the FBI in the Apple dispute: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-02-23/gates-disput... A better troll might've pointed out the disparity between Microsoft supporting Apple's stances and the circums…

Maybe Microsoft would like the precedent set in favor of Apple so they can use it against overly intrusive requests for back doors in their products in the future. They may have acquiesced but that doesn't mean they liked it.

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

Also Gates consults with Microsoft occasionally and is a large stakeholder but that does not mean Gates speaks for Microsoft, or that Microsoft speaks for Gates. In fact, they disagree pretty regularly.

He's on the board of directors, which is a bit more involvement than "consulting occasionally." I remember reading that he spends 1-2 days a week working on Microsoft business. That was around the time when Ballmer was leaving and Satya Nadella was taking his place so it may have been a particularly busy time.

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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post #3
post #2

Wow, so brilliant to have Bill Gates so he's pro-government intrusion and then the company back Apple. Update: This was not meant to troll. I fell for the mis-attributed quotes to Bill and thought he actually backed the FBI. I stand corrected.

I think they're only backing it now because of the backlash against Gates. They sure took their sweet time, either way.

>They sure took their sweet time, either way.

Did they? Do we need to know every company's opinion on every controversial issue related to their business immediately?

Re: Microsoft, Google, Facebook Back Apple in Blocked Phone Case

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Gates consults with Microsoft occasionally and is a large stakeholder but that does not mean Gates speaks for Microsoft, or that Microsoft speaks for Gates. In fact, they disagree pretty regularly.

He's on the board of directors, which is a bit more involvement than "consulting occasionally." I remember reading that he spends 1-2 days a week working on Microsoft business. That was around the time when Ballmer was leaving and Satya Nadella was taking his place so it may have been a particularly busy time.

I think that was more for the CEO transition stage than a permanent thing but I could be wrong.
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