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Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Has Microsoft gone too far?

9 out of 10 PC's still run Windows so I guess not.

But more than 5 out of 10 PCs are still running Windows 7, and more than 2 out of 10 are still running other older versions of Windows.

Windows 10 has reportedly now passed 10% market share and just overtaken Windows 8.1 and Windows XP (individually, not combined).

For an operating system that Microsoft are so aggressively promoting to current users of 7/8, not to mention literally giving it away to them, that looks like an awful reaction from the market six months in already.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Or just turn off the spotlight thing in settings.

This is not how you design good products and tools. If I grab my drill, it's because I want to make a hole. I don't want to click through even one annoyance. Also, in the real world, it's one annoyance today, but it'll be five tomorrow if people don't push back. Computers are annoying because apologists keep saying things like "just turn that off".

I don't disagree with your general point. But we have here a relatively new image showcase feature called "spotlight". I'm not really seeing the deception or poor design if you chose to enable this new feature in the first place.

Edit - I've just found out Spotlight is enabled by default. I don't have Windows 10, didn't know.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

I'm happy to hear that gaming works well, and apparently my decidedly older CPU (AMD Phenom X4 965) supports the technology as well, which is interesting to learn. However, my main reason for needing Windows is for music recording and mixing via Cubase and other DAW software. This requires really low-latency access to my USB and PCI sound cards. Does anyone have experience with running applications like this in a VM?…

The simplest thing to do of course is just try it. You can install Windows in a VM without a product key and try it without limitation for something like 30 days.

That said, "really low latency" is relative. Device assignment will give you excellent I/O performance in terms of sending data to/from the device, particularly for bulk DMA transfers. Where you (likely) still pay a penalty is in terms of interrupt delivery, as on most chips these are still routed through the host even in "passthrough" mode. Even so, you're looking at delays at the outside on the tens of microseconds scale, depending on which microarchitecture you're on and how well tuned the fiddly bits of your hypervisor (presumably KVM for most users) are. Some configurations will be much better behaved here. If your audio hardware goes into polling mode (or can be made to do so) when it is recording you can potentially avoid the interrupts entirely.

(source: I work on Google Compute Engine, in particular on virtualized networking, historically on performance. Virtual interrupt delivery latency is a topic near and dear to my heart, although I don't know a damned thing about audio gear and its tolerances there :)

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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I have found that a lot of the audio editing software you can get away with quite low specs. I record my podcasts on a 8 year old laptop running Windows XP. It rarely connects to the internet and I record to a thumb drive that is backed up so there is nothing to lose on it. In this particular case something similar might be the best option. For pod-casting anything over 2 or 3 ms in my headphones throws me off my gam…

Unlike podcasts, music recording and mixing is extremely CPU intensive. Especially if you run a lot of analog simulating synths and stuff.

Virtual CPUs with VTx can be made to run at essentially native speed for most workloads on most fairly modern CPUs. Memory performance can be subpar, although there's public documentation on techniques that can improve that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM%20-%20Using%20Hugepage...

I/O performance is a whole other story, dependent on many workload and hypervisor specific factors.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Predicting what exactly? 1. New spotlight feature = on; 2. Toggle "fun facts and more" = on; You know that images will stream in from the internet along with "fun facts and more" whatever that is. And when a Tomb Raider image appears, you're suddenly in Orwellian future shock mode? The day MS takes away the toggle so you can't switch ads off, is the day to be outraged. Not before.

The day MS takes away the toggle so you can't switch ads off, is the day to be outraged. Not before. GWX certainly qualifies as an "ad." Just curious, where is the "toggle switch" in the "settings" that I can turn "off" to disable GWX? Oh, there isn't one? I thought so.

Okay... that would annoy me too. I'm still on Windows 7 and haven't seen anything like that. Not one Windows 10 ad, and I've been doing Windows updates (manual ones from time to time). On both my laptop and desktop - Win 7 and Win 8, I have yet to see any GWX ad. Maybe I will see it one day.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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The day MS takes away the toggle so you can't switch ads off, is the day to be outraged. Not before. GWX certainly qualifies as an "ad." Just curious, where is the "toggle switch" in the "settings" that I can turn "off" to disable GWX? Oh, there isn't one? I thought so.

Okay... that would annoy me too. I'm still on Windows 7 and haven't seen anything like that. Not one Windows 10 ad, and I've been doing Windows updates (manual ones from time to time). On both my laptop and desktop - Win 7 and Win 8, I have yet to see any GWX ad. Maybe I will see it one day.

This is interesting. In my experience any off-domain (i.e. workgroup) Win 7 installation which is taking Windows Updates (required, not optional) gets the GWX update. The relevant Update is KB 3035583.

"To install this update, you must have April 2014 update rollup for Windows RT 8.1, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server 2012 R2 (2919355) installed in Windows 8.1. Or, install Windows 7 SP1" [0]

Apparently it also does not apply to Enterprise Edition. [0]

[0] https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/3035583

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Does anyone find it unpleasant how these new OSs are increasingly embedding online content everywhere, presumably opening many network connections and using bandwidth while increasing attack area unnecessarily? The start screen tiles in Win8, which continue into Win10's start menu, are the most obvious example here.

It isn't that I hate the Internet or anything like that; I've certainly spent long hours online visiting various sites. Nonetheless, the idea of some parts of the OS that --- by default and with no explicit action of the user --- at some undisclosed time, reaching out somewhere to some server that I have no idea of, and retrieving content to be rendered on my machine, just doesn't feel right to me. If some of that "promiscuity" resulted in malware being installed, it would be extremely difficult to determine the cause; according to the list in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10053622 , Windows 10 by default contacts a rather large list of domains, many of which are third-party and not even Microsoft-controlled.

As I write this post I have a total of one network connection from my machine, an IM client; and at all times I am aware of what connections it's making, and which processes are doing it, so there is nothing unaccounted for. That's the way I like it --- my machine does not "talk to strangers" without me being unaware.

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