Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

Post by matzipan » Wed, Feb 24, 2016, 5:23 PM UTC

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Windows 10 is a pretty good OS but has serious issues with drivers (it tries to be clever and breaks stuff). And the startup is sooooo slow and the UI crashes twice before I ever get the chance to give it input. The Mail, Calendar and OneNote apps kept me hooked. But the lack of a decent terminal was killing me. Also, Skype didn't work properly half the time and the new "Video" and "Messaging" apps built on top of Sk…

> And the startup is sooooo slow and the UI crashes twice before I ever get the chance to give it input. Then your installation is clearly broken. No, it's not good, but let's not pretend these issues didn't exist in the "good old days".

Post by c22 » Wed, Feb 24, 2016, 5:25 PM UTC

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I will look you in the eye and say the Amiga and ST in 1986 were better than Windows or Ubuntu in 2016.

They might have been better at the small subset of things Windows and Ubuntu can do that the Amiga and ST were also capable of, but they are not "better". A single screwdriver is better than a toolbox at being light and easy to carry. It is not better overall.

Post by paulddraper » Wed, Feb 24, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

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Most things worked far, far better 10 years ago than today. Apparently this is progress. Social everything means we can't visit a website today without calls to a billion external domains. Phones are doing the same as they're mini-tablets that suck at actual phone calls. Operating systems have taken on mobile centric (and the hideous flatten everything) design that is broken paradigm for a 15" laptop or 24" desktop s…

"Nothing at all is user-centric anymore..." In my observation, this has certainly been the trend. In my experience, in this climate you have to look harder to find it user-focused software, and to some extent you have to write some of it yourself. This is because the software world has been flooded with "easy to use" programs that are either located on third party computers or must automatically connect to third part…

Post by Retric » Wed, Feb 24, 2016, 5:29 PM UTC

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> If you wanted to look up a business on your phone you'd have to call directory enquiries - did that "work better" than your smartphone? Bad example. I didn't need a smartphone for this task because there was a real live human being, who brought to the task all of the adaptability and intuition that modern systems lack. I didn't need Yelp, or Google Maps, or even the entire name of the business I was looking for. "I…

> I didn't need a smartphone for this task because there was a real live human being, who brought to the task all of the adaptability and intuition that modern systems lack. OK, my example was simplistic. I want to find the best chicken tacos in San Francisco. I can't call directory enquiries for that - I have go find reviews. Then call to make a reservation at the place, then find driving directions of how to get th…

Post by obsurveyor » Wed, Feb 24, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

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Just because software isn't moving in a way that you personally want doesn't mean it's wrong or that it was objectively "better" before. We don't have apps that work offline? Maybe look around more. FFS half of the web apps i use work fine offline. And claiming that there has been no innovation in the OS space for years is silly. There is plenty of innovation, it's just that people don't like change and will instantl…

Windows 10 is a pretty good OS but has serious issues with drivers (it tries to be clever and breaks stuff). And the startup is sooooo slow and the UI crashes twice before I ever get the chance to give it input. The Mail, Calendar and OneNote apps kept me hooked. But the lack of a decent terminal was killing me. Also, Skype didn't work properly half the time and the new "Video" and "Messaging" apps built on top of Sk…