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Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by noisy_boy »

txdv wrote: post #91
haddr wrote: post #40

Skype on Linux is far inferior recently. Mostly due to the fact that the Linux version has been somehow abandoned. It haven't received updates since at least 1 year. For example, one recent change is that when someone sends a picture, on Linux you are sent a link to it, where you have to go to the Skype website and login in order to view it (and login each time you open a link). Sometimes it's a resized version of th…

In the end to the end user "linux sucks" because skype sucks on linux.

Maybe that is intentional in this case.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by yulaow »

cookiecaper wrote: post #285
mrmondo wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do have my own suspicions that a certain company deliberately degrades the quality of any software they release for platforms other than their own.

I agree with you. This is textbook Microsoft. They're also implementing Windows-only features in Minecraft and it wouldn't surprise me if the desktop client begins to suddenly degrade on non-MS platforms at some point.

It is ironic considering the whole windows phone community is lamenting all the time against microsoft because all their apps are of far better quality on ios and android than on wp.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by balabaster »

kuschku wrote: post #293
bad_user wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's free(ish) The free tier has a very limited history, which defeats the point of using Slack, since you lose your history. And there's really no point in using Slack if you don't have a history you can rely on, might as well use IRC. And once you start paying, $7-$15 per user/month is not what I'd call cheap. It's cheap compared to a salary, but such costs pile up. > Voice/Video via numerous integrations includi…

> might as well use IRC. Worse: For IRC you can use quassel (self-hosted) or IRCCloud (4$/month). So with IRC you get more, but even cheaper.

The problem with IRC is that the plugins aren't as discoverable and more of a pain in the neck to integrate.

When you're not in channel on IRC, you don't have access to anything that was said prior to joining the channel which means you don't even have any immediate history, or context to a conversation that is ongoing when you join. At least with Slack you have 10,000 messages of history, which is at least enough to give you the context of the discussion.

Also while probably irrelevant on a technical level, it's just not as pretty and user friendly as Slack.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by _ea1k »

anexprogrammer wrote: post #185
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #31

Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I've seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android. Fun fact: I have a friend who…

Most things worked far, far better 10 years ago than today. Apparently this is progress. Social everything means we can't visit a website today without calls to a billion external domains. Phones are doing the same as they're mini-tablets that suck at actual phone calls. Operating systems have taken on mobile centric (and the hideous flatten everything) design that is broken paradigm for a 15" laptop or 24" desktop s…

Yeah, everything was better ten years ago. Like this ten year old youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNQXAC9IVRw (240p?).

Web pages have become bloated, but they load faster on my phone now than they did on the desktop that I had in 2005.

There are many frustrating things occuring with development now, but it is crazy to say that ten years ago was objectively better.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by andromeduck »

kbart wrote: post #191
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #31

Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I've seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android. Fun fact: I have a friend who…

Skype used to be great, but started to downspiral fast as soon as it was acquired by MS. Before that, Skype was running on all my devices 24/7, but then (after MS acquisition) it started taking way too much resources and crashing constantly what resulted that I barely use Skype anymore, only turn it on when I have to make/receive an international call that was planned in advance. Not to mention forced updates (that r…

IMO Skype was pretty bad before MS but only in that the messages wouldn't always synchronize or get delivered between computers so conversations were very difficult but if the client was at least okay.

When MS bought it everything went to shit. Still had the problems with messaging/sync but if you had a surface pro it'd be impossible to send files or share contacts on the preinstalled metro app which IMO is a pretty fucking basic feature. Worse yet it prevented you from being able to install the regular desktop client and the Android version couldn't start group calls so I had to use two fucking computers just to use it like before.

And the stupid notifications will pull you out of a game too because for some reason they're still clickable when you're full screen.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by brazzledazzle »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #240
TheHippo wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No desktop client Seeing the level of shitty ported Linux programs I see this as a pro. > Connected to your google account meaning I'll need to juggle several google accounts to keep my personal and business chats separate This would be easier with Skype if you have 2 Skype accounts? When using Chrome: > - Gets grouped with my other browser windows in my taskbar, making it hard to find Menu -> More tools -> Add to…

>> Connected to your google account meaning I'll need to juggle several google accounts to keep my personal and business chats separate >This would be easier with Skype if you have 2 Skype accounts? to some extent. depending on how you start a hangouts, you have no idea what account it's going to start under. The number of times I've gotten on a work call on my personal account because google felt it should use that…

I know each Chrome window can be logged into a different account so I wonder if it just uses the last window (and therefore account) you interacted with. That seems to be the case with links I click on in general. It would be nice if they let you select a "default" account or prompted you for google-specific links.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by andromeduck »

anon4 wrote: post #151
mrmondo wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do have my own suspicions that a certain company deliberately degrades the quality of any software they release for platforms other than their own.

It crashes on windows if you type too quickly.

Metro or desktop?

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by andromeduck »

tychuz wrote: post #139
mrmondo wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do have my own suspicions that a certain company deliberately degrades the quality of any software they release for platforms other than their own.

Strange, considering that Skype on OS X / iOS was (still is?) better - ie pasting links would generate a thumbnail in messaging, Windows got this only recently. Also OS X client didn't had that annoying 'unread' bug. So. I do have my suspicions that no one really cares about Linux on desktop and 99% people would agree, that even having a Linux client is a waste of time, and posts like yours are nothing but linux zeal…

Can you do group calls on mobile yet?

That was the biggest reason I quit.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Post by pluma »

agumonkey wrote: post #55
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #31

Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I've seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android. Fun fact: I have a friend who…

The android client is also a bit random. Notifications pops when they feel like it. Some upgrades change for different kind of wrong.

I feel like it has improved because it used to just lock up in the background with the indicator still claiming everything was fine and you're available. And then when you actually check in on it by opening the app it'd show you've been disconnected the entire time and quickly log on to be able to pretend nothing ever happened.

Nowadays while it's still occasionally disconnecting at random at least the indicator seems to be more honest about what's going on I would like to believe it locks up less frequently.

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