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Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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post #39

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There was a Swedish summer hit song with basically this premisse a few years ago. "Anna, the bot".

Isn't that song about their IRC bot and how they love her because she kicks all the lamers from their channel and protects it from takeovers? Here's a video with english subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7iU0GGVco8 EDIT: oh yeah at the end it does turn out that she's really a human girl.

Hey! At least write "spoiler alert"!

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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post #16

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That's romantic comedy stuff. Both sides believe they've hired a bot but have been secretly matched and are just talking to each other, to save costs. They are really happy with the "relationship" they have with the "bot". When they find out, they are outraged and sue the company...

Plot twist at the end: they are actually both replicants.

Tell Alma, "The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."

Hard to believe that movie is three and a half decades old.

Speaking of replicants getting interviewed by HR, another possible profitable relationship simulator, "The HR interview simulator" asking both classics such as "Can you describe how you solved a work or school problem?" and "What bugs you about coworkers or bosses?" and for an additional $10/month it adds "Mr Neckbeard McNed" to the conversation, who asks you to explain various algos randomly drawn from the Book of Knuth. "So I see you're applying to be a web page designer ... css, check, jquery experience, check, no Fields Medal or Nobel, thats something we kinda require here for writing our CRUD app, preferably both, but maybe we can make an exception just for you ... I was wondering if you could psuedocode the Hopcroft-Karp bipartite algorithm on the whiteboard for me. No pressure, I'll give you a minute or two. Or you can write it in Haskell, 6502 assembly, or APL, whichever you'd prefer."

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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post #36

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It wouldn't be too hard for the surveillance society to distinguish the real profiles and bots(Edit: or people pretending to be different people). The US Government has built up such far reaching surveillance tools, of which we have just seen the tip of the iceberg, that this chaff that you are talking about wouldn't be chaff at all.

Isn't spotting an AI algorithmically about as hard as building it?

Well, based on inspection of content, maybe. But we're not talking about mere words as an expression thought.

The simple fact is that within U.S. borders alone, there are maybe 300 million animals, each weighing in at probably 150 lbs (75kg) or more. They drive cars visible from space. They flip light switches on and off wherever they go. They clock in at work. They clock out. They walk in front of cameras, and there are cameras dotting every place of business, and in homes and outdoors. They plug things in and then unplug them. They power on machinery. They use credit card terminals. They visit ATMs. They buy things in cash, with serial numbered currency, which passes through more optical scanners than you might guess. And almost everyone speaks English, exclusively.

And then there are the mobile devices, the uniquely identifiable radio beacons we've, almost all of us, have volunteered to be tagged with.

So, VPNs, and proxies, and TOR, as much as they do, are only going to go so far.

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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post #11

I wonder how does this business scale. $15 a month is not much for paying salary.

I'm familiar with the company and believe they use Amazon's Mechanical Turk. There's a hard cap on the number of messages per month, so that ensures they stay profitable.

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be too hard for the surveillance society to distinguish the real profiles and bots(Edit: or people pretending to be different people). The US Government has built up such far reaching surveillance tools, of which we have just seen the tip of the iceberg, that this chaff that you are talking about wouldn't be chaff at all.

Isn't spotting an AI algorithmically about as hard as building it?

No, it depends on how good the AI is. For example a really bad AI is really easy to spot

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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OA quote: ""lower league English football" wasn't available" Possibly explains the recurring need for a fake one. Serious contribution: bots faking it with other bots generating large numbers of apparently real social profiles. Not just gf/bf whatever but other forms of relationship (fake boss asking for more work this weekend as a cover for...). Ideal chaff for the surveillance society.

Sign me up for some fake kids!

Re: Fake girlfriend, revisited

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OA quote: ""lower league English football" wasn't available" Possibly explains the recurring need for a fake one. Serious contribution: bots faking it with other bots generating large numbers of apparently real social profiles. Not just gf/bf whatever but other forms of relationship (fake boss asking for more work this weekend as a cover for...). Ideal chaff for the surveillance society.

I think if you're going to undertake large-scale chaffing of the internet, it'd be way more fun to target the future rather than the present.

Don't just create a hundred million fake profiles with their own social networks: try to create alternate timelines. Profiles on social networks, emails, instant messages, dating profiles, recontextualized and faked photographs, websites and DNS entries and forums, all supporting an alternate timeline, smushed as thoroughly as possible into the internet.

Don't just try to confuse current surveillance states, try to confuse future historians!

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