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Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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I use web.skype.com these days. I don't want that piece of crapware installed on my box, as I don't trust it. The web client works well enough for chat so I can talk to my friends who don't want to move away from it. It does however not support calls since for some reason it needs a browser plugin for that. WebRTC would clearly be too easy. So I just link people a Firefox Hello link whenever they want to use voice.

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Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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I've been educating as many people (especially Management and Business people) as I can to switch over from Skype to any other alternative (like Hangouts). Because Skype is: * A memory hog * A bandwidth hog (its really inefficient about network usage, and uses a lot of bandwidth even when idle) * Has much lower call quality (a consequence of the above), just try having a call in Hangouts or Skype and notice that Hang…

You read my mind, while we are 99% an open source organisation we have a couple of managers that are strangely MS centric, if it has their stamp on it - it has to be 'enterprise grade' and there for the only serious option for them.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Skype has been getting worse and worse over the years. Personally I've switched to Telegram for chats, and I'll be looking for alternatives as far as voice calls are concerned.

Did you try https://whispersystems.org/ ? There is a desktop version but it doesn't support voice: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/

I use it on mobile for texts, but I need a desktop client that allows group voice chats.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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In the past year, the Mac client has also become very fragile. If I quit the Skype App without signing out, next time login keeps failing unless I go to the library folder and delete my Skype user profile directory. Quite shameful for such a high profile software.

I do have my own suspicions that a certain company deliberately degrades the quality of any software they release for platforms other than their own.

It has got worse on their own platform too.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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post #113

Skype hasn't been a pain on Linux since the Microsoft takeover. It was a huge pain long before. XMPP with http://swift.im/ and http://conversations.im/ is much more pleasant.

Swift.im looks interesting, thanks for the link. At work most of us use Adium with our XMPP servers, those stuck on Windows have to use pidgin at present which is truly awful so I'll take a look at this for them.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#137

Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I've seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android. Fun fact: I have a friend who…

>Fun fact: I have a friend who worked for Skype in Prague. He said the codebase is a true horror, an extreme mess, and that soon it would "reach a singularity"

Being a developer, I read this and think, what developer thinks any existing codebase is NOT a mess. It's the number one developer complaint ever. They (we?) all think we know a better way.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the past year, the Mac client has also become very fragile. If I quit the Skype App without signing out, next time login keeps failing unless I go to the library folder and delete my Skype user profile directory. Quite shameful for such a high profile software.

I do have my own suspicions that a certain company deliberately degrades the quality of any software they release for platforms other than their own.

Strange, considering that Skype on OS X / iOS was (still is?) better - ie pasting links would generate a thumbnail in messaging, Windows got this only recently. Also OS X client didn't had that annoying 'unread' bug. So.

I do have my suspicions that no one really cares about Linux on desktop and 99% people would agree, that even having a Linux client is a waste of time, and posts like yours are nothing but linux zealotry - "boo M$ antitrust making me use Windblows"...

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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post #103

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They are trying hard now to brink Hangouts back from the brink.

Are they? What have the done recently that made Hangouts better?

The first step was disentangling it from G+.

I hope the next step is a sane API to let third-party clients integrate with it. It does not have to be XMPP, as long as it's something clear and well-supported.

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