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Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

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Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#51
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use tox[1] with my family and some friends. https://tox.chat/

Does that have a native app for the desktop? I'm tired of everything using Electron and requiring hundreds of megabytes of RAM for simple stuff :-(

It is written in C and has several desktop clients.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try https://whispersystems.org/ ? There is a desktop version but it doesn't support voice: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/

Hmm. The parent says he needs voice though, no? 'Desktop version': - it is a Chrome App (arguably not a desktop client?) - it in (restricted) beta, aka not available - the beta requires (acc. to the link you provided) "your Google account email"

> Hmm. The parent says he needs voice though, no?

You can make voice calls with Signal, to other Signal users.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#53

Why people use Skype is beyond me.

Network effects. I've been forced to install the client (Linux) twice for work. Worked fine for calls/chat, but I'm not keen on running it, to say the least.

Also, there are project managers in my industry who check availability of freelancers via Skype, rather than email. Remaining logged in keeps you visible with them. I don't do it, and I find it a shame that this is the state of affairs.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#54
post #40

Skype on Linux is far inferior recently. Mostly due to the fact that the Linux version has been somehow abandoned. It haven't received updates since at least 1 year. For example, one recent change is that when someone sends a picture, on Linux you are sent a link to it, where you have to go to the Skype website and login in order to view it (and login each time you open a link). Sometimes it's a resized version of th…

>Another thing is the screen sharing. On Linux you can't share screen with more that 1 person, making it useless for telcos at work. And there is much more...

Consider yourself lucky, for me screen sharing doesn't seem to work at all.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#55

Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I've seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android. Fun fact: I have a friend who…

The android client is also a bit random. Notifications pops when they feel like it. Some upgrades change for different kind of wrong.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#56
post #15

While I'm unsure about the inability to join calls, I can at least agree that the Linux client is terrible. I finally caved a few months ago, got an account, and started using it ("oh wow it handles 's/woops/fixed/', that's awesome")... until the client began freezing, chewing 100% CPU for as long as I patiently left it running, and not getting itself sorted out. Removing ~/.Skype (XDG, anybody?) and re-signing in wo…

> XDG: TL;DR = says stuff should be in ~/.config, ~/.cache, etc.

XDGBDS is such an unstandard even xdg-utils doesn't care for it. And Skype predates XDGBDS (let alone whatever the current version of XDGBDS is this week).

Also you're wrong, XDG doesn't say stuff should be in specific directories, it defines envvars specifying directories with various defaults, defaults which are at best only correct on Linux distros which purport to follow XDG, which you can't test for because XDGBDS didn't see fit to define a way to say it.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#57
post #2

This is very disappointing. Skype has been one of those "just works" solutions for calling distant family members - even if they're running underpowered hardware. I currently use https://tel.red/ to connect to Lync / "Skype for Business" on Linux. I wonder if that's a possible solution?

Crappy phones have been decoding voice calls for years now. it shouldn't require powerful hardware.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#58

The Linux client is pretty disappointing, to be honest. The only reason I keep using Skype is because of friends using it.

The Xbox client isn't much better. After install, it would only run for me if I specifically did NOT accept the terms and conditions. Account management is also dodgy as hell.

Unless they start doing something, they will lose market. Whatsapp calls has been rising and people in the gaming world are starting to switch to better alternatives. I don't understand why such little effort. It's not like Skype for android is much better either. I've had trouble with it too.

Re: Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

#60
My biggest disappointment with the business version the fact that it is impossible to turn off the pop up notification when somebody logs in or out from Skype. Before you post me URL from the support website, non of them works, everybody in the office (10+ engineers) tried to disable this but no success. The only way you block that is to put yourself into do not disturb mode, but than non of the legitimate notifications are displayed either. Skype for business is a perfect distraction tool without providing any quality or functionality that other software already have. I just do not understand that in 2016 MS is at this level when it comes to user experience after being in the user facing software business over 40 years.
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