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To use the word "unlock" seriously blurs the lines of what's going on here. They're merely asked to flash it with software that removes a delay in submitting passcodes and removes the wiping function after ten failures.
That's not unlocking it.
If Apple complies with the order, the FBI will still be getting an encrypted iPhone back, and they'll still have to sit around and try to decrypt it.
Will we be hearing an apology from FBI spokesmen that insisted this is a one-time thing?
*Director
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-directo...
Apple does have a point. I probably won't own a device with a known vulnerability even if it was at the behest of the government.
Do you own a car?
The executive branch can obtain warrants from the judicial branch to "exploit vulnerabilities" and gain access to these "devices".
Question which I can't get out of my head: It would stand to reason that the ruling on this case would affect other commercial phone and/or OS manufacturers, but how would it reflect on some OSS projects, where the coders are not necessarily employees of the project?
I fail to relate the scenario we have now to software project (though no doubt the FBI will try to).
With hardware you typically have a clear manufacturer. However things might get interesting if more people make their own hardware using open-source designs.
Superman represents an unchecked power, and Batman finds this unchecked power to be unacceptable as a risk, in case the power is ever used against humanity.
Is this a subtle marketing ploy from DC Comics‽
Earlier quoted context omitted.
One can ask the other way. If they weren't obligated to help before, when the FBI had access, why would they be obligated now?
Because before the FBI didn't need their assistance, and now they do.
> The judge has indicated skepticism over the government’s demands. Initially, Apple agreed to a formal order to help the Justice Department gain access to Mr. Feng’s phone, but Judge Orenstein balked, questioning whether the All Writs Act could be used that way. He invited Apple’s lawyers to raise objections. This is curious, because I was under the impression (due to the lawyers on HN) that this is basically an ope…
> The judge has indicated skepticism over the government’s demands. Initially, Apple agreed to a formal order to help the Justice Department gain access to Mr. Feng’s phone, but Judge Orenstein balked, questioning whether the All Writs Act could be used that way. He invited Apple’s lawyers to raise objections. This is curious, because I was under the impression (due to the lawyers on HN) that this is basically an ope…
What Apple is being asked to do here isn't simply to unlock a phone. They're being asked to use their engineers, money, and expertise to build a tool to defeat the very encryption they developed.
It's not clear the All Writs Act enables the government to simply order a search warrant recipient to create new technology for them.
I think it's important to dispel this fiction that Apple will be "unlocking" anything. To use the word "unlock" seriously blurs the lines of what's going on here. They're merely asked to flash it with software that removes a delay in submitting passcodes and removes the wiping function after ten failures. That's not unlocking it. If Apple complies with the order, the FBI will still be getting an encrypted iPhone back…
I thought it was 12, now its 9? Are they using new math?