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Justice Department Wants Apple to Unlock Nine More iPhones

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Re: Justice Department Wants Apple to Unlock Nine More iPhones

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Post by ceejayoz »

arrty88 wrote: post #2

> The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., foreground, and New York City’s police commissioner, William J. Bratton, behind him, say they have about 175 iPhones they have been unable to unlock. Wait, how many have they been able to unlock and how? Sheer luck?

As long as the "delete after ten failed attempts" feature is off, you can try as many times as you want. It'll be slow going (the phone institutes delays after a bunch of failures), but I'm sure feeding SSNs, phone numbers, birthdays, etc. into it gets decent returns.

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Post by lips »

Question which I can't get out of my head: It would stand to reason that the ruling on this case would affect other commercial phone and/or OS manufacturers, but how would it reflect on some OSS projects, where the coders are not necessarily employees of the project?

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Post by kareemm »

This sounds exactly right. From an article I posted earlier[1]:

> In interviews with BuzzFeed News Wednesday, the former officers with the FBI and NSA acknowledged that U.S. intelligence agencies have technology that has been used in past intelligence-gathering operations to break into locked phones. The question, they added, was whether it was worthwhile for the FBI to deploy that technology, rather than setting a precedent through the courts.

This article seems to confirm that Law Enforcement is going to do its best to set a legal precedent.

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11163338

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Post by joering2 »

sago wrote: post #16

> “What we discover is that investigation into one crime often leads into criminal activity in another, sometimes much more serious than what we were originally looking at,” They want access so they can go fishing too? They're really not doing a good job of sticking to the 'necessary and proportionate' line.

Incredible stretch huh?

I bet any living noun knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who is a paid assassin.

So heck yes we definitely should search noun's phone.

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Post by update »

kareemm wrote: post #23

This sounds exactly right. From an article I posted earlier[1]: > In interviews with BuzzFeed News Wednesday, the former officers with the FBI and NSA acknowledged that U.S. intelligence agencies have technology that has been used in past intelligence-gathering operations to break into locked phones. The question, they added, was whether it was worthwhile for the FBI to deploy that technology, rather than setting a p…

> This article seems to confirm that Law Enforcement is going to do its best to set a legal precedent.

What do you think the odds are that the gov. wins?

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