State, county and municipal governments are next.
Divorce lawyers after that.
Justice Department Wants Apple to Unlock Nine More iPhones
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#12Clearly this is an agenda. I still don't understand why Apple needs to save the FBI from it's own incompetence in asking the government office that managed the iPhone to reset the password. It seems to me that unless tech companies come together to defend Apple, we may see (unregulated and unaccountable) government become very very part of all facets of computing.
I can't think of any way in which the FBI's incompetence would have legal implications for Apple's obligations. How would that work?
If they're able to help, and can be compelled legally, why would the FBI having previously had the ability to get the data but losing it to a mistake change their obligation?
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#13Well the spin game is guaranteed to ramp up. Sycophants are already laying the ground that Apple and Cook would have to accept some of the blame in any upcoming terrorist attacks. I am amazed they haven't tried the kiddie porn route yet.
Still another issue is, if they were compelled to create it they could be compelled to surrender it too. With that its a matter of weeks or months before it gets leaked to a criminal organization or country.
My long term concern is, would we ever know if they got compelled to change iOS to insert a backdoor that gets pushed to our phones. Even if we do how long before carriers are required to lock users out for not updating?
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#14> The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., foreground, and New York City’s police commissioner, William J. Bratton, behind him, say they have about 175 iPhones they have been unable to unlock. Wait, how many have they been able to unlock and how? Sheer luck?
nah they have tools that can be embedded between the touchscreen and logic board, can be used to brute force https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meEyYFlSahk I naively thought it was a machine with a robotic finger, derp
This is the blog post that video comes from: http://blog.mdsec.co.uk/2015/03/bruteforcing-ios-screenlock.... It has a bit more context.
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#15This part is interesting...
"The judge has indicated skepticism over the government’s demands. Initially, Apple agreed to a formal order to help the Justice Department gain access to Mr. Feng’s phone, but Judge Orenstein balked, questioning whether the All Writs Act could be used that way. He invited Apple’s lawyers to raise objections."
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#16> “What we discover is that investigation into one crime often leads into criminal activity in another, sometimes much more serious than what we were originally looking at,”
They want access so they can go fishing too? They're really not doing a good job of sticking to the 'necessary and proportionate' line.
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#17Apple does have a point. I probably won't own a device with a known vulnerability even if it was at the behest of the government.
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#19Note how Android unlocking demands never came up in this discussion. That's because the phones are vulnerable.
I am a Nexus user.
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#20> The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., foreground, and New York City’s police commissioner, William J. Bratton, behind him, say they have about 175 iPhones they have been unable to unlock. Wait, how many have they been able to unlock and how? Sheer luck?
Perhaps luck (trying birthdays), perhaps getting pin numbers from other services (ATM card) and trying those...