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Paying $2500/mo for rent alone on a $50k salary is crazy.
That's why no one does it. They have roommates
Spotify moves its back end to Google Cloud
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Promises to do something for a year which you can change or withdraw after 30 days are really promises for 30 days: "Google may make changes to this Agreement, including pricing (and any linked documents) from time to time. Unless otherwise noted by Google, material changes to the Agreement will become effective 30 days after they are posted, except if the changes apply to new functionality in which case they will be…
> Disclaimer: IAMALBIANYL. I like that one. :) I have a question though, is the prevalence of taglines in any way related to legal requirements? Do you have to stipulate that you aren't a lawyer when stating things because otherwise people to construe it as legal advice, or is it just a fun little identifier of how valid we should consider information to be (like it is in other acronyms of the same type)?
The reason we heavily regulate the practice of law is similar to the reason we heavily regulate the practice of medicine. If you screw something up, the consequences can be bad. If someone takes your advice thinking you know what you are doing, and you are wrong, that person can end up a lot poorer or even in prison. (Though some will argue we regulate it so lawyers can be the only ones charging high fees for legal advice!) Just like one probably shouldn't go around telling folks not to worry about their incredible chest pain and shooting arm pain unless they are a trained medical doctor, the same could be said for those that go around offering home spun legal advice.. ("Yeah man, if you ask the undercover cop if he is law enforcement, he HAS to tell you! Otherwise it is entrapment man...")
Also the reason you always see lawyers preface everything by saying "I'm not your lawyer.. This isn't legal advice... Yadda yaddda yadda" is because once there is an Attorney-Client relationship a lot of stuff happens. The lawyer has a host of duties to the client, from confidentiality, to competence, and many others. That obligation isn't taken lightly and many times if there is any doubt whatsoever whether or not there is an attorney-client relationship, the law will find in favor of one because --- well -- the lawyer should know better. Therefore lawyers will make it annoying clear they aren't your lawyer before spouting off some deep legal thoughts about whatever the topic of discussion is.
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So, basically something like AWS's VPC? Given that it took them a few years to get that right even with tons of people asking for it, I'm not super optimistic that Google could match it any time soon. I'd love to be wrong!
GCE networking was always equivalent to AWS VPC, but there's new functionality in stuff like Cloud Router, subnetworks, and other beta features to expand that even more. Here's the Network Services section from a guide explaining GCP for people who are used to AWS: > The differences between AWS networking and Google Cloud networking are significant. This due to the nature of how these services were designed. Google C…
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#206They've shut down more popular services that people depend on than Google Cloud. They tend to enter a market, undercut all the competitors, and then once they are dominant in the niche they terminate or change the service in a way that makes it not fulfill the original promise.
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AWS employees may not speak out very often, but they hardly need to. AWS is a marketing machine, from Jeff's regular blog posts, to the volume of free information they provide and to the conferences that they are running everywhere. I think Microsoft is starting to catch on with Azure promotions & conferences, but it's like Google didn't even know that the there was a race .... and they left their running gear at hom…
This might be true but I think the issue is that many AWS employees actually want to speak out or respond to issues personally. I used to work at AWS and the things we could say were very controlled. It could just be my team/managers though.
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That is true. And, as Spotify found out, what Spotify does can also happen in its own Data Centers :) Google does give an additional level of comfort - seamless scaling, No-Ops, powerful Big Data tools, flexibility. I'm going to shamelessly promote one of my opinions on this topic when it comes to BigQuery: https://cloud.google.com/blog/big-data/2016/02/visualizing-t...
> Google does give an additional level of comfort - seamless scaling, No-Ops, powerful Big Data tools, flexibility. I'm going to bookmark this comment and come back to it when Google decides its getting out of the "cloud" compute business.
Why do you think they will do so?
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> Google does give an additional level of comfort - seamless scaling, No-Ops, powerful Big Data tools, flexibility. I'm going to bookmark this comment and come back to it when Google decides its getting out of the "cloud" compute business.
Hmm, sounds interesting. Why do you think they will do so?
I'm not just paying for a service. I'm paying because I know AWS is in it for the long haul.
This is great for Spotify, just as AWS was great for Netflix (considering both services are terrible at representing true workloads; they're both just control planes serving static content, videos or music). I don't see it dragging a ton of business into Google, just making their acquisitions easier for people who decide to start on GCP or migrate in.
Just my two cents.
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#210Sorry but spotify's infrastructure is not a shiny beacon of correctness. They've compounded mistake upon "Oooshiny lets use that" here is a post where someone dissects spotify's infrastructure bit by bit: http://www.secretbatcave.co.uk/software/docker-and-you/ This isn't an anti google compute, its got some really great features. But, spotify's backend infrastructure ain't one Yes, I appreciate that that post is from…
We've got our warts and a pile of tech debt, and I wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise. Containers are a part of a long-term strategy to get away from puppet and onto more idempotent units of deployment, and move a lot of what is considered to be "configuration" back into the build process where it belongs.