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Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Time for the other so-called broadband providers to shake in their boots. I like companies that have no respect for established business models. In this perspective, despite its size, I think it's fair to call Google a start-up.

I forget where the link was (I think somewhere on yc), but it showed a chart of internet access speed through a few years, rated by countries. Most of the large-nation world had grown by 10%+, many over 50%, in a few years, while the US had dropped by a couple percent. This is in addition to most of those countries being higher already, so it's not merely a 5kbps -> 8kbps jump. My price for internet access not going…

Average access speed is dropping because of the increased penetration of wireless access in the US lately.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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I'm not sure this will have the effect on competition some around here think it will. The only way this will cause traditional providers to lower their rates and increase their capacity is if they actually feel threatened by Google's offering. 50,000 - 500,000 people is just not going to be enough to impact any of the big player's bottom lines. Comcast has 15 million Internet customers. Are they really going to mis 5…

That's a good point. When I left they didn't even ask why.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes. Did you hear that? It sounded as if millions of hollywood executives suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

Was that what it was? Because I think it sounded a lot like scandinavia sighing that we've had this for a decade. (I'm sure other countries has too, the US really has backwater infrastructure.)

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Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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The variable cost of selling broadband is extremely low.

The problem isn't the variable cost; it's the $2,000 truck roll per customer.

I'd be fine with a wireless last mile to avoid cable messiness.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Actually, Norway and Sweden has a lower population density than the US has; we've got even more land mass per person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependenc... I think it has more to do with that we don't leave infrastructure development squarely in the hands of the market.

> Actually, Norway and Sweden has a lower population density I realize that. The multipliers I gave necessarily imply exactly that: 15x pop. and 10x area => U.S. has 1.5x the population density.

I would imagine that non-uniformity of population (i.e., cities are high-density, backwater rural states are not) is exacerbated by the greater land area of the U.S.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Right. At Google's scale, it will even benefit them a lot if other broadband providers provide a better service, since it promotes more use of the internet, and thus more ad income for Google.

Or will make video ads more practical. Uhm, yay?

I guess people said the same thing when pictures were first being used on the net.

I'd say that it was still a net benefit not to be text only, wouldn't you agree? Ads can be annoying, but they also pay for a lot of what we're using online every day.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes. Did you hear that? It sounded as if millions of hollywood executives suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

I thought the "download" part was funny too. 1g is as fast as many people's laptop hard drives anyway, so local storage is pretty much pointless.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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But I highly doubt Google is planning on offering "Cable Video." In the same way that VOIP is differentiated from Voice Service according to the FCC, offering IPTV does not require a Service Provider to register as a Cable Franchise. VOIP & IPTV are seen as "applications," not a native service type.

Google's own press release suggests they're looking for new ways to use ultra-highspeed broadband: Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes. Or collaborating with classmates around the world while watching live 3-D video of university lecture. Now look at how Geneva, Illinois fought off AT&T U-Verse (called "Project Lightspeed" in the experimental phase) because they alread…

Interesting, I hadn't heard of that. Of course there will be lawsuits, but my point was that by current definitions they should not be in violation of cable franchise agreements, even if they are allowing users to download full-feature films in < 5 minutes.
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