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Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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I don't know how they'll get their message past the machine elves from dimension 9 that also communicate with people on LSD.

DMT is much different than LSD. I have never heard anyone talk about machine elves and LSD. DMT is a legitimate mystery of science and is not a drug in the traditional sense.

It's so odd how there's a near-universal reporting of small elf- or dwarf-like creatures from that drug. Is there any proposed mechanism of action for how it works?

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have had rainbow halos around street and car headlights since my early twenties. I first noticed it whilst tripping and have yet to determine whether the cause is physical or mental. Looks pretty though.

This could be HPPD[1] or related. There seems to be uncertainty as to if hallucinogens cause some of these effects directly, or if they simply help train the mind to notice what was already there. For instance, is visual snow there already, and hallucinogens simply make one more aware of it and capable of focusing on it (similar to how tinnitus is worse if one focuses on it)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinoge…

This can also be caused by (minor) eye issues. I had that effect for a while after PRK surgery.

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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I believe the main factor at play in the first pair of images, is that on LSD and other hallucinogens as well as intensive meditation is that there are little mind programs that run on our perception that smooth out reality for us. If you notice, even just sitting still we are constantly moving our head just a little, constantly moving our eyes. Without these programs, our visual field would seem far more jumpy and u…

This idea of reality being "passed through" multiple filters, and these filters being reduced or disabled on psychedelics, is developed (somewhat unscientifically) by Huxley in "The Doors of Perception"- it's a fairly good read.

If I remember correctly, the main criticism against this is that if it were the case brain activity should be reduced, at least in some regions, when on psychedelics. However, observing people on psychedelics with fMRIs does not match with that.

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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post #3

I don't know how they'll get their message past the machine elves from dimension 9 that also communicate with people on LSD.

DMT is much different than LSD. I have never heard anyone talk about machine elves and LSD. DMT is a legitimate mystery of science and is not a drug in the traditional sense.

On LSD you become the alien.

On DMT the aliens come to you...

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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post #33

I believe the main factor at play in the first pair of images, is that on LSD and other hallucinogens as well as intensive meditation is that there are little mind programs that run on our perception that smooth out reality for us. If you notice, even just sitting still we are constantly moving our head just a little, constantly moving our eyes. Without these programs, our visual field would seem far more jumpy and u…

This idea of reality being "passed through" multiple filters, and these filters being reduced or disabled on psychedelics, is developed (somewhat unscientifically) by Huxley in "The Doors of Perception"- it's a fairly good read. If I remember correctly, the main criticism against this is that if it were the case brain activity should be reduced, at least in some regions, when on psychedelics. However, observing peopl…

That's interesting. Could that be because those filters are imaginary in nature?

After all, no specific brain activity can be detected on a person imagining Santa Claus to be real either.

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DMT is much different than LSD. I have never heard anyone talk about machine elves and LSD. DMT is a legitimate mystery of science and is not a drug in the traditional sense.

It's so odd how there's a near-universal reporting of small elf- or dwarf-like creatures from that drug. Is there any proposed mechanism of action for how it works?

Priming seems likely. Most experience reports I've read describe the "entities" as ineffable, so I have to think the language used by McKenna is more a cultural staple/fallback than a consistent hallucination unique to DMT.

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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Imagine the types of debugging tools you'd need to be able to finish a game like the one suggested in the article. They would necessarily need to encode transformations such as those that happen when taking LSD, compared to baseline sober people.

Or of course, try and code while high..

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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Many years ago I tried LSD, and for whatever reason, I never seemed to experience visual hallucinations. However, in recent years, cars have started having LED tail lights, which really bother my eyes. Several times I have asked my friends, "Aren't those terrible!?" to which they might reply, "They are pretty bright." Bright! They aren't just too bright, they are intensely STROBING! Can normal people not see that? Is…

I hate to continue your tangent but I do feel something that is relevant to the OP article are new vehicles that have blinking break lights. Most people don't notice these new break lights (I think its on Chevy cars) but when the driver breaks there is a very fast and subtle blinking of the red tail lights (opposed to just the red tail lights being on for older cars). I only noticed this blinking while under... but n…

"Brake" lights, not "break" lights.

Re: Communicating with people on psychedelics

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post #33

I believe the main factor at play in the first pair of images, is that on LSD and other hallucinogens as well as intensive meditation is that there are little mind programs that run on our perception that smooth out reality for us. If you notice, even just sitting still we are constantly moving our head just a little, constantly moving our eyes. Without these programs, our visual field would seem far more jumpy and u…

This idea of reality being "passed through" multiple filters, and these filters being reduced or disabled on psychedelics, is developed (somewhat unscientifically) by Huxley in "The Doors of Perception"- it's a fairly good read. If I remember correctly, the main criticism against this is that if it were the case brain activity should be reduced, at least in some regions, when on psychedelics. However, observing peopl…

maybe the mechanism of "shutting down" these processors is not about ON/OFF behaviour, bur rather just disconnect from processing pipeline, not being in sync with other ongoing processes etc.

generally brain on psychdelics is in "overdrive" mode (confirming on myself), but maybe not everything is on turbo in same way, and works seamlessly in normal state doesn't work well anymore

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