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Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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Merkel has already told facebook and twitter to delete comments and ban accounts negative of her 'policies'.

Source please?

Anecdotally speaking, FB & TW are doing an awful job of complying with Merkel's "supposed orders" as I see people dissing her and her policies esp. immigration whether for or against all the time and in German too.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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Merkel has already told facebook and twitter to delete comments and ban accounts negative of her 'policies'.

Source please? Anecdotally speaking, FB & TW are doing an awful job of complying with Merkel's "supposed orders" as I see people dissing her and her policies esp. immigration whether for or against all the time and in German too.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/27/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-m...

On the sidelines of a United Nations luncheon on Saturday, Merkel was caught on a hot mic pressing Zuckerberg about social media posts about the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany, the publication reported.

The Facebook CEO was overheard responding that "we need to do some work" on curtailing anti-immigrant posts about the refugee crisis. "Are you working on this?" Merkel asked in English, to which Zuckerberg replied in the affirmative before the transmission was disrupted.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source please? Anecdotally speaking, FB & TW are doing an awful job of complying with Merkel's "supposed orders" as I see people dissing her and her policies esp. immigration whether for or against all the time and in German too.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/27/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-m... On the sidelines of a United Nations luncheon on Saturday, Merkel was caught on a hot mic pressing Zuckerberg about social media posts about the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany, the publication reported. The Facebook CEO was overheard responding that "we need to do some work" on curtailing anti-immigrant posts about the refugee crisis. "Are you…

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Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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I doubt they have capable programmers working for them. A few years ago the Chaos Computer Club discovered the 'predecessor' version of this State-Trojan ("Bundestrojaner"). This version was a perfect example what happens when you _want_ to have such a software but your programmers _suck_ at even most basic things (like establishing a working traffic-encryption).

Here's the video (in German): https://youtu.be/zAV-hTpperU

We shouldn't fear their 'capabilities' but rather their lack of knowledge that'll ultimately lead to 'open systems' which can later be exploited by other criminals.

In fact, our State (I'm from Germany) supports criminal activities by using a crappy software that'll crack the basic security measures of Windows.

I doubt they have any professional Linux programmers working for them. Working for the State also means earning only a fraction of what you can earn in the free market.

I do not fear the State but criminals who'll sooner or later exploit holes created by our "security agencies".

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source please? Anecdotally speaking, FB & TW are doing an awful job of complying with Merkel's "supposed orders" as I see people dissing her and her policies esp. immigration whether for or against all the time and in German too.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/27/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-m... On the sidelines of a United Nations luncheon on Saturday, Merkel was caught on a hot mic pressing Zuckerberg about social media posts about the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany, the publication reported. The Facebook CEO was overheard responding that "we need to do some work" on curtailing anti-immigrant posts about the refugee crisis. "Are you…

She is not asking to remove content critical of her policies, she is asking to remove content promoting violence or racial hatred. You can criticize her policies as much as you want.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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post #12

I will always remember that days when german businesses requested servers in their offices because AWS was under NSA...

This is not an uncommon request... actually a lot of German companies (especially the bigger ones) will never trust public cloud infrastructures especially when they are based in another country.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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post #8

Merkel has already told facebook and twitter to delete comments and ban accounts negative of her 'policies'.

Do you have any reference about that?

There's been 3 references posted already. All social media is monitored in germany for state-defined 'hate speech' ie, anti mass illegal immigration speech.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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post #4

Relevant: > According to a 2008 decision by the German Constitutional Court, remote access to a citizen's computer is permissible only if there is life-threatening danger or suspicion of criminal activity against the state.

That's their usual shtick. The same was used to legitimize blanket license plate scanning (now used for speeding tickets) and data retention laws (mainly used for drug trafficking).

"Life-threatening danger" my ass.

Re: German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens

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> They [trojans] are often used by hackers and thieves to gain access to somebody else's data.

What does this make the German government?

If you get something on a suspect, bring him/her into custody and start your investigation but bugging them and putting their digital life at risk for the lure and greed for information gathering is just detestable and unethical.

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