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Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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Re: Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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Madison Wisconsin is a neat town-- I almost moved there. Winters are a bit cold.

I'm digging Seattle quite a bit... It's a big soggy in the winter but downright glorious in the summer. Winters aren't much wetter than the Bay Area, near as I can tell. Great access to outdoorsy stuff and a fairly lively startup community. Skiing 45 minutes east. Dry wine country 2 hours east. If you want to live in the sticks, there are some cool towns that people commute from on ferries. How cool is that?

Austin is cool. Decidedly un-Texan and charming.

Re: Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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I'm in Pittsburgh until I leave... the biotech community mostly consists of UPMC but they have a huge presence in the town. There are some medical device startups here but the lack of angel/VC funding minimizes the startup presence. Housing is very cheap here; it's one of the few housing markets in the country with the peculiar property that a monthly mortgage payment would be less than rent on an equivalent house. I…

+1 for the Squirrel Hill and Shadyside neighborhoods in Pittsburgh. Incredibly cheap housing, biotech jobs are numerous, and there's more capital available than you'd think. CMU & Pitt churn out lots of science and engineering students as well. Major cons: cold winters (it hit the single digits recently), shitty road surfaces

I grew up in Pittsburgh and it has another con you forgot: it is one of the cloudiest places in the US. IIRC only Erie and Buffalo are worse. I took it for granted when I was a kid, but it would get me down now.

Re: Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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Two come to mind for me: Columbus, OH and Champaign, IL. Champaign seems pretty close to what you're looking for, but it's definitely too flat. That's why I'm leaving. Columbus has Ohio State right there, and is as booming as you're going to find in Ohio. It's a beautiful city for the size and there's a sizable tech industry there. It's a place I wouldn't hesitate to live, but I have yet to do my time in the bay area…

Columbus is a nice place to stay, as long as you don't mind the cold. I have been here for the past 4 years, and really like it. Its not too expensive, yet the city has a lot to offer, both socially and culturally. Having Ohio State's campus here brings a huge student population, and along with the working crowd in Columbus, makes for good balance. Though I maybe I am missing what jmtulloss is trying to get to here..…

I actually don't know anything about the startup climate, you're right. I just know of a lot of big names out there. You would hope with a major engineering University right there and a sizable tech industry, there would be at least some startup culture.

Re: Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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Check out Santa Clarita, CA. It's just shy of 300,000 in terms of population and it's just north of LA (at the 5 and 14 freeway). It is a bit expensive ($400k+ home prices) unless you opt to live on the outskirts of town. You can survive on under $30,000 with a family though, if you have inexpensive tastes and have some self control. It's only about 5mi radius, so everything is pretty close. The city is developing quickly and does have a few tech companies around here, but I have to be honest, the entertainment industry is much larger here. We have a bunch of movies and other things filmed here. But as far as job opportunities for hackers, we do have a somewhat entrepreneurial climate.

The only "Universities" are 2 community colleges: College of the Canyons, and Cal Arts. College of the Canyons is decent though, with about 20,000 students per semester and growing. Under an hour drive to UCLA and USC without traffic, and there's Cal State Northridge too (my school).

Another notable feature, Six Flags, Magic Mountain is here.

And as an added bonus, we are in a valley (surrounded on all sides), and it just snowed on the mountains. It looks beautiful.

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Two come to mind for me: Columbus, OH and Champaign, IL. Champaign seems pretty close to what you're looking for, but it's definitely too flat. That's why I'm leaving. Columbus has Ohio State right there, and is as booming as you're going to find in Ohio. It's a beautiful city for the size and there's a sizable tech industry there. It's a place I wouldn't hesitate to live, but I have yet to do my time in the bay area…

Columbus OH???

I lived in Columbus. Your opinion is invalid.

Topography: absolutely flat

Size: Columbus is a sprawling stain of concrete blight of about a million people.

College: If you obsessively love football and Natti Light, OK.

Tech Industry: name one. A small, dying satellite office of a huge multinational doesn't count. Neither does insurance or fast food.

Beautiful: Short North area is OK, but nothing special unless you compare it Toledo or Dayton

Re: Ask YC: Mid-sized, livable, hacker-friendly towns?

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I live in Austin, TX and find its size to be manageable, although it is growing fast. Is that too large for you? It has the University of Texas, its in the 'Hill Country', and has a lot of smart and creative folks. I don't have a car and ride nothing but the Capital Metro bus. The average age is pretty young here, so there are a lot of parties and such, which is a plus for some but minus for others. You will like it…

Thanks for the info, I'm city shopping right now and I'm planning to check out Austin at SXSW. Any Austin tips for me? I try to avoid having a car at all costs, so it's good to know you've found that feasible.

This probably is moving away from what davidw was asking, but here's my quick guide to Austin.

The 6th street advice depends on who you are. If you are looking for live music, definitely 6th St. and the clubs on Red River. If you want cheaper drinks (like $1 Rum and Cokes of low quality), want to party with more of college-age crowd, are single and looking for attractive women, you will be very happy there. Very little work gets done on 6th St (unless you work in one of the bank buildings). Once the 6th st. crowd graduates, they hang out in the Warehouse District, which is around 4th and Colorado/Lavaca. This is where you go if you want more like a $4-5 drink or if you enjoy sipping Lattes. Less live music stuff. More cafes. I work out of a couple coffee shops over there, and also work out of a neighborhood called Hyde Park (which is not downtown). Austin is growing fast. There are many condos being built in the downtown area, particularly in the area that is now being called the "2nd Street District". Hyde Park is a cool little neighborhood if you don't want to hang out downtown. Houses are older, smaller, and more expensive there. When I say expensive, I mean Texas expensive, not California expensive.

I'll be at SXSW if anyone wants to meet up. I'll be attending the SXSW interactive and as many of the live music shows that I can fit in. The full list of over 1000 bands was released today and can be viewed at http://2008.sxsw.com/music/festival/alphalist/. Yes, all of them in one week.

For some funky shops and a cool place to visit in the day it'd be worth stopping by the South Congress area.

For live music places, I recommend Stubb's, Emo's, and The Parish Room (for more Indie Rock stuff), Elephant Room (for Jazz), Mohawk, and Antone's.

For a cool neighborhood pub with a jillion beers that you probably wouldn't run into normally, go to http://www.draughthouse.com/. Other places with a large beer selection where you can hear yourself talk are The Ginger Man and Opal Divine's.

Some magazine voted Alamo Drafthouse the best movie theater in the country. It's one of those theaters where you order a beer and food while you watch the movie, so I enjoy it more for a humorous movie. Some other magazine voted Book People the best bookstore in the country.

For good coffee places to use free wifi, go to Austin Java (Downtown), Halcyon (Downtown), Epoch (Hyde Park), Quack's (Hyde Park), Flightpath (Hyde Park), The Hideout (Downtown), Metro (by UT Campus), JP's Java (near UT campus), Little City (Downtown), or Spiderhouse (near UT campus).

Barton Springs and Zilker Park is where a lot of people go for outdoors stuff like running, walking dogs, frisbee golf, and swimming.

Shop at HEB for a big cheap grocery store. Go to Whole Foods or Central Market if you want to stock up on organic expensive stuff.

If you are rich and want to buy some designer sunglasses, go to the Domain or the 2nd St. District. If you are an indie/emo kid, go to SpiderHouse, Beauty Bar, or....Emo's. If you are a metalhead or goth type, there are some places on Red River for you.

For a really big delicious burger or some tasty wings, visit Casino El Camino on 6th. If you want some cheap gigantic breakfast tacos, go to Juan in a Million. For an open-faced burger with a mound of cheese fries piled on top, go to Hyde Park Grill. For a wine bar, go to Vino Vino.

A car is not very important if you know the Capital Metro bus routes and stay central, which is where most of the interesting stuff is anyway.

If you like bumming around a college campus, hang out around UT-Austin, which is between 26th and 21st st. Many people will be wearing an ugly burnt orange color, similar to the orange at the top of this web page.

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