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Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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I've been wondering lately what would happen if someone like Google decided to build their own cellular network. Is there a way that someone could disrupt that industry?

Rumor Mill: Google Acquiring Sprint http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/google/rumor-mill-g...

Thats from 2007. Sprint and Clearwire merged last year and Google is significantly invested in Clearwire's 4G network build-out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwire

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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I think this is more around trying to force the broadband providers to get their act together. Scare them ;0)

They use the scare tactics a lot, but they didn't work in the wireless spectrum auction did they?

They ensured that open access provisions were included.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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I don't understand why the go for the 1gbit fiber to the home. it would be more helpfull to their business if everybody in the u.s would have 2 or 5 or 10mbit/sec in a short time , then if everybody has 1gbit/sec in a much longer time. Also , does anybody know mass market applications that require more then 10mbit up/10mbit down?

Mass market applications that utilise 1gbit connections do not exist because the mass market does not have 1gbit connections.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes. Did you hear that? It sounded as if millions of hollywood executives suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

This certainly does qualify as disturbance in the Force :-)

On the other note, I do hope that Hollywood would embrace this as an opportunity not as a problem.

However, if anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can expect big media to cling to the old ways of doing business for as long as they can...

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Time for the other so-called broadband providers to shake in their boots. I like companies that have no respect for established business models. In this perspective, despite its size, I think it's fair to call Google a start-up.

Yeah, after Google starts selling broadband significantly below cost, no real ISP will be able to meet customers' inflated expectations.

The variable cost of selling broadband is extremely low.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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I don't understand why the go for the 1gbit fiber to the home. it would be more helpfull to their business if everybody in the u.s would have 2 or 5 or 10mbit/sec in a short time , then if everybody has 1gbit/sec in a much longer time. Also , does anybody know mass market applications that require more then 10mbit up/10mbit down?

Mass market applications that utilise 1gbit connections do not exist because the mass market does not have 1gbit connections.

But connections above 10 mbit/sec exist in many places outside and inside the u.s.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Was that what it was? Because I think it sounded a lot like scandinavia sighing that we've had this for a decade. (I'm sure other countries has too, the US really has backwater infrastructure.)

Admittedly this probably has a lot to do with luddite technology policy, but surely it has more to do with the U.S. having 10 times the land mass and 15 times the population as Scandanavia [1]. [1] Stats from Wikipedia, summing Norway + Sweden + Denmark area and most recent population vs. United States.

Actually, Norway and Sweden has a lower population density than the US has; we've got even more land mass per person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependenc...

I think it has more to do with that we don't leave infrastructure development squarely in the hands of the market.

Re: Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

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Yeah, after Google starts selling broadband significantly below cost, no real ISP will be able to meet customers' inflated expectations.

I don't think Google is going to sell at below cost, the limitation on large network's bandwidth is primarily routing technology which has continued to improve while US broadband has stagnated. It's not like other countries have not been rolling out low cost 1Gbit consumer connections for a while. PS: Despite all these talk of caps etc, upstream bandwidth is still a small chunk of a large ISP's budget.

Anecdotally: A friend of mine who lives in Sweden gets 100 megabits for about the equivalent of $25 per month. It's not a gigabit, but it's a lot closer to a gigabit than five megabits is.
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