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Mark Zuckerberg Backs Apple in Its Refusal to Unlock iPhone

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Backs Apple in Its Refusal to Unlock iPhone

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Post by pcurve »

This is an interesting tug of war. Considering 50% of Americans are taking the opposite stance, the SV elites are in the minority. (35%) Yet no pro-government business executive has emerged. I guess it's a risky position to take.

I have a feeling the government will eventually figure out a way to get its way without our realizing.

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Post by Consultant32452 »

pcurve wrote: post #2

This is an interesting tug of war. Considering 50% of Americans are taking the opposite stance, the SV elites are in the minority. (35%) Yet no pro-government business executive has emerged. I guess it's a risky position to take. I have a feeling the government will eventually figure out a way to get its way without our realizing.

I would be absolutely shocked if the government didn't have numerous ways to get into any information on any commercial phone. What they don't have is a simple device that average joe agent has access to at the local office, and of course his civilian police force compatriot.

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Post by uptown »

pcurve wrote: post #2

This is an interesting tug of war. Considering 50% of Americans are taking the opposite stance, the SV elites are in the minority. (35%) Yet no pro-government business executive has emerged. I guess it's a risky position to take. I have a feeling the government will eventually figure out a way to get its way without our realizing.

I consider the "50% of Americans" stat to be useless. This is a complicated topic for technologists to grasp. To expect the general public to understand the implications of what they're being asked in order to provide an informed answer is a stretch.

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Post by LoSboccacc »

uptown wrote: post #5
pcurve wrote: post #2

This is an interesting tug of war. Considering 50% of Americans are taking the opposite stance, the SV elites are in the minority. (35%) Yet no pro-government business executive has emerged. I guess it's a risky position to take. I have a feeling the government will eventually figure out a way to get its way without our realizing.

I consider the "50% of Americans" stat to be useless. This is a complicated topic for technologists to grasp. To expect the general public to understand the implications of what they're being asked in order to provide an informed answer is a stretch.

especially when the answer is loaded (the think of the terrorist/children/drugs trick)

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Post by otoburb »

ceocoder wrote: post #7
neom wrote: post #4

Given what I saw when I was at DO, everyone should back apple in their refusal to unlock the iPhone.

Apologies, what is DO?

DO = Digital Ocean. The parent wrote the abbreviated term subconsciously because he used to work at Digital Ocean.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Backs Apple in Its Refusal to Unlock iPhone

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Post by zepto »

pcurve wrote: post #2

This is an interesting tug of war. Considering 50% of Americans are taking the opposite stance, the SV elites are in the minority. (35%) Yet no pro-government business executive has emerged. I guess it's a risky position to take. I have a feeling the government will eventually figure out a way to get its way without our realizing.

50% of Americans can only take the opposite stance if they know what stance they are taking. The reporting on the poll doesn't reveal any screening questions to determine whether the respondents understand the issues at stake. If they don't understand the issue, then the 50% is answering a question about something else.

If they asked the question "Should Apple make it easier for terrorists and foreign hackers to access information on American phones", I suspect less than 50% would say yes.

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