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Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Someone poured their heart and soul into something that may not make a profit! Don't be such a cranky scrooge just because they confess that. An ex used to run neurological studies, and they are incredibly expensive. The small survey groups will no doubt improve with time. If you don't believe the hard science, then try the product and see if it works for you compared to the music that's linked to in the above posts.…

> Someone poured their heart and soul into something that may not make a profit! Sorry but that's irrelevant. A homeopathy practitioner could say the same thing. Their site front page says in big font: "Dramatically improve focus, relaxation & sleep". And it says science all over the place and contains pretty sciency charts. An intentionally wide range of charts. Vertical and horizontal bar charts, pie charts, line g…

Hey man, about to respond to your other question, but there was a similar question earlier so thought I'd just take this one first.

Here's a bibliography we're still working on. More to add, but a good start so far: https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/ResearchLibrary.pdf

Here's an independent peer reviewed study on HRV using our tech: https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/ElioConteHRVandBWE.pdf

We're planning on following that one up with a more robust study, because our users do get great results with HRV and it's an interesting topic.

One of our former neuroscientists published a well received meta analysis in a journal, but it's a bit outdated now re: what we're doing. Still, it's on our site if you're interested.

And then of course here's our own research that is pending publication:

https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/EEGFocusAnalysis.pdf https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/EEGSleepAnalysis.pdf

We also do regular analysis of user progress with a few statisticians I work with, and those will be published as well. Sorry, just takes time to get these things ready and through to a journal. Trying our best though. :)

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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After a quick little look through the Terms of Service...

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I guess this is a helpful disclaimer in many ways, because this allows me to presume that all their claims are invented, all their peer reviews are suspect, and that their entire product line is inferior to a generic recording of waves hitting the beach, crickets at night, or a babbling brook.

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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After a quick little look through the Terms of Service... > IT IS ALSO SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EVALUATE THE ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS, USEFULNESS OR VALIDITY OF ALL OPINIONS, ADVICE, SERVICE, PROMOTIONS, ADVERTISEMENTS, AWARDS, PRIZES OR OTHER INFORMATION, AND THE QUALITY AND MERCHANTABILITY OF ALL SERVICES AND/OR MERCHANDISE, PROVIDED BY OR THROUGH BRAIN.FM. BRAIN.FM MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS, WARRANTIES OR ENDORS…

This belongs to the same drawer as binaural beats.

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Hey, Adam from Brian.fm here. Thanks, glad you like it. There's a piece of my soul in that thing. Or I assume soul-transfer is what happens when you go full hermit for 5 months and gain 50 pounds creating something like this. Any questions about the science or AI, happy to talk about it. :)

> There's a piece of my soul in that thing. Good for you, but that's none of my business. I don't want to be harsh, but I don't like this kind of emotional manipulation. You're trying to prime me to be buddies with you and cut you some slack. I have some questions. In what sense is this an AI and not simply a computer program? Did you use methods that are discussed in AI or machine learning textbooks and conferences,…

Hey, no problem. Not trying to "prime" you here, this is just how I talk. I'm not that strategic. If you think it would help, I'd be happy to get on a call/skype? I just feel like there's some miscommunication going on here and I'd like to clear it up if I can.

1) Research:

I responded to your other comment with some research links. Here they are again just in case: https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/ResearchLibrary.pdf https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/ElioConteHRVandBWE.pdf https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/EEGFocusAnalysis.pdf https://www.brain.fm/pdfs/EEGSleepAnalysis.pdf More on our site as well, and we are working on the bibliography still. Some of it won't relate directly to your questions, such as the slow-wave stuff, because it's meant to be a general reference for what we're doing as a whole.

2) Pretty Charts:

The pretty charts you see are direct copies of the EEG analysis by Giovanni. We did try to make them pretty, but if you're interested in the originals check out the analyses Giovanni did. He'll be on at some point to explain them further if you want to direct some questions to him directly.

3) Your study procedure recommendation

Regarding your study procedure recommendation, that's a great idea. We did something very similar to that in the Focus analysis above. 3 conditions: No Music - Music Without Stimulation (placebo) - Music With Stimulation. To the untrained ear, the music was indistinguishable. Most people can't tell which is which, and the feedback we got from the subjects confirmed it. It was actually really interesting: some of them asked to be able to keep the placebo-music (not calling it that, obviously), saying they worked better on it, when their results often told a different story.

Next study will be double blind and have more subjects. Giovanni feels we have enough information now to do it right.

So, someone above asked about the AI thing and I'm happy to explain it. I'll paste a lot of that below. Although I have to say I'm not sure what textbooks are calling anything these days. When I talk to programmers right out of college sometimes there's a bit of confusion as they talk about patterns I know, but use different names. I grew up programming on an 8088, and I've been working for myself for 13 years, mostly by myself, so I'm sure I'm behind on a lot of things.

Having said that, I'd probably call what I'm doing "Emergent" because there are many competing little pieces. Let's see if I can explain it quickly here, though please don't be too hard on me I'm trying my best to answer a lot of questions, but I'm really happy to go more into later after all this dies down :) Conceptually, you could think of it as first creating what I'll call "song-bot", which acts a kind of overlord, and has some instructions from me (like maybe there's some specific chords I want it to use, keys to avoid, tempo, brainwave protocols, genre, etc, etc). This song-bot guy then spawns a bunch of little other bots that compete with each other for the right to play/fade in/or generally be a part of the final result. These little guys have different characteristics, like a "drum-bot" might has different places it "wants" to be placed, and so generally competes with other drums, but not always. Sometimes I'll even have little "bots" for individual notes of a certain instrument. They obey certain rules of course, to form a background, drum line, or a simple melody, and then they pass that information along to subsequent incarnations (there's some learning involved in that process, though I hesitate to give it any textbook term - man, you have me terrified here of defining something wrong! :) ). Through that learning, the pattern the original little guys made has more weight and will tend to repeat. But again, not always.

After a while, out of all these smaller, simple processes form a very complex song. Complexity "emerges." So I call it a kind of "emergent intelligence."

The resulting song can be quite complex and varied. Of course there's more to it, because songs have sections and clever variance, but all in all the genres I'm using are very structured. Techno especially, is very easy for the AI. Sometimes I'm tasked with creating a theme in a particularly difficult genre, and that's when it gets really tricky/fun (such as some of the Indian ones, which were labors of love). In these cases, I may have to re-rerun many "generations" of the AI through the same song from beginning to end, with different parameters/instruments, but with the same patterns/learning, because what can happen in these cases is that it starts out simple, and increases in complexity as it goes, so the start can sometimes be a bit boring.

Also keep in mind this is just a conceptual explanation. The code is much less amusing. Thinking of naming processes "bots" just for fun though.

I hope I explained it OK. Listen, I'm not saying it's Watson or anything, or even that I'm following the definition of "emergent intelligence." I didn't go to a textbook to make this, it's really just a necessary step I had to take in order to make the computer do what I wanted it to do. I tried out some different ideas, and this one worked the best, in my opinion at least.

- Adam from Brain.fm

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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> There's a piece of my soul in that thing. Good for you, but that's none of my business. I don't want to be harsh, but I don't like this kind of emotional manipulation. You're trying to prime me to be buddies with you and cut you some slack. I have some questions. In what sense is this an AI and not simply a computer program? Did you use methods that are discussed in AI or machine learning textbooks and conferences,…

Someone poured their heart and soul into something that may not make a profit! Don't be such a cranky scrooge just because they confess that. An ex used to run neurological studies, and they are incredibly expensive. The small survey groups will no doubt improve with time. If you don't believe the hard science, then try the product and see if it works for you compared to the music that's linked to in the above posts.…

Hey, thanks

haha, I know I shouldn't be surprised by now, now it's still funny to me that I am sending a heartfelt thanks to a one "slagfart" :)

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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What makes you use the word "AI" as opposed to "algorithm"? What kind of AI techniques do you use just broadly speaking (I mean techniques that are described in AI textbooks, AI courses, AI conferences)?

Sure! Happy to explain it. Although I have to say I'm not sure what textbooks are saying these days. When I talk to programmers right out of college sometimes there's a bit of confusion as they talk about patterns I know, but using different names. I grew up programming on an 8088. :) In a podcast called College Info Geek and recently in I did a talk at Northwestern (The Garage) and I called what I'm doing "Emergent"…

That's fine and makes sense. I wouldn't call it AI though.

The marketing is just too overhyped and in-your-face for my taste. It reminds me of the startup called "The Grid", which claimed they will build a website-creating AI. It's an often misused term in marketing.

Another cool mystery term is precisely "emergent". Okay I'm not trying to be harsh on you, and I know that marketing is all about exaggeration and wooing people into buying your product and having the right keywords so that tech news portals pick up on you and can produce a clickbaitish title etc. Also it may enhance the placebo effect in such soft areas as this.

Anyway, I do like how it actually sounds and it seems to have worked on me somewhat, but I'm not too sure about that or how much of it is placebo.

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Some of my favorite tracks to code to: Solar Fields - Sol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiD9M59FQE Solar Fields - Discovering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYkxKWNzoo Jerome Isma ae - Underwater Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TINBQPpVi0 Bedroom Lullaby - Kisses In the Rain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZGKjLoo64 Royksopp - Royksopp Forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_txL43iFM Shpongle - Around…

Sounds like you have similar taste to me. Do you have a spotify playlist? (I posted mine already so ctrl-f for my screen name) .

I don't use spotify. But you're right, your playlist has a lot in common of what I like.

I usually use http://www.jango.com which allows me to create my own radio station by specifying a few artist names, and it will play tracks similar in taste to those artists. I know there are other sites like that, but I'm not sure if spotify has a similar feature. The thing is I don't like playing a fixed playlist over and over, I prefer things being a bit more random, although following the same taste.

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