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AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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I still can't find anything better to program to than Nujabes. I'm going to give this a genuine shot, but Jun Seba really left his mark on me for life. I find myself listening to his albums and songs at least twice a day. I think it's because of his repetitive beats, smooth strings and soft instrumentation. There's a reason there are 10 hour 'homework' edits on youtube for almost all of his songs. Counting Stars: htt…

The music I like to listen to while programming is basically trip hop/acid jazz/lounge/world music/some techno.

Some songs that are probably not well known that I like are:

I really like B. Fleischmann's Album "The Humbucking Coil" (particularly "Composure" and "Static Grate").

I also like Meteorology by Overseer .. it sounds like Royksopp. Its a weird song but I like.

Anyway my playlist is here:

https://open.spotify.com/user/agentgt/playlist/7whQGAE4NSps8...

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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It's putting me to sleep, even though I'm listening through speakers and not headphones.

Which category were you listening to? It's definitely a whole different experience with headphones :)

I picked something sleepy.

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Great list! Listening to "Gas", I thought you might also like Fennesz - Venice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAghDS6s4Q&list=PLKtI6DyKnY... And while we're at it, just a few of my favorites: Greg Haines - Slumber Tides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmMDkZhl_R4 Nest - Retold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r69TiaIE4uo&list=PLaAArUShcY... Murcof - (Ulysses, Martes, Remembranza - all great): https://www.youtube.…

Best list I found in this thread yet. Am I the only one that likes to work to (mostly) instrumental sludge metal and post-rock? ISIS — Celestial (2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XN-3YZL5Y

This sounds amazing, brilliant recommendation!

If anyone is into similar stuff I recommend Meshuggah - Catch Thirty Three -> it keeps me programming for hours at a time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mfMC2DIA1A&list=PLe8GYqVK4w...

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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While we are at it, the following is a selection of musicians whose work for me is both sedative and promotes focus (an oxymoron?). Ambient music usually garners a few sniggers, "this is what they play in spas" "whale music" etc, however in my experience can be an incredibly rewarding and effective method of relaxation and enjoyment. Gas (Wolfgang Voigt) - Pop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s--IkNqI9og Brian Eno - D…

Some of my favorite tracks to code to: Solar Fields - Sol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiD9M59FQE Solar Fields - Discovering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYkxKWNzoo Jerome Isma ae - Underwater Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TINBQPpVi0 Bedroom Lullaby - Kisses In the Rain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZGKjLoo64 Royksopp - Royksopp Forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_txL43iFM Shpongle - Around…

Sounds like you have similar taste to me. Do you have a spotify playlist? (I posted mine already so ctrl-f for my screen name) .

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Hey, this Adam from Brain.fm. I created the music "AI" thing. Glad to have the praise of a musician! My family's very musical, so it took some convincing for them as well. The thing is, it still takes creativity! It took me half a year to create it, and there's a little piece of my soul in this AI. A horcrux, programmed in. :) It makes music how I would make music. Well, most of the time. I had to create the thing be…

What makes you use the word "AI" as opposed to "algorithm"? What kind of AI techniques do you use just broadly speaking (I mean techniques that are described in AI textbooks, AI courses, AI conferences)?

Sure! Happy to explain it. Although I have to say I'm not sure what textbooks are saying these days. When I talk to programmers right out of college sometimes there's a bit of confusion as they talk about patterns I know, but using different names. I grew up programming on an 8088. :)

In a podcast called College Info Geek and recently in I did a talk at Northwestern (The Garage) and I called what I'm doing "Emergent" because there are many competing little pieces. Let's see if I can explain it quickly here, though please don't be too hard on me I'm trying my best to answer a lot of questions, but I'm really happy to go more into later after all this dies down :) Conceptually, you could think of it as first creating what I'll call "song-bot", which acts a kind of overlord, and has some instructions from me (like maybe there's some specific chords I want it to use, keys to avoid, tempo, brainwave protocols, genre, etc, etc). This song-bot guy then spawns a bunch of little other bots that compete with each other for the right to play/fade in/or generally be a part of the final result. These little guys have different characteristics, like a "drum-bot" might has different places it "wants" to be placed, and so generally competes with other drums, but not always. Sometimes I'll even have little "bots" for individual notes of a certain instrument. They obey certain rules of course, to form a background, drum line, or a simple melody, and then they pass that information along to subsequent incarnations (there's some learning involved in that process, though I hesitate to give it any textbook term - man, you have me terrified here of defining something wrong! :) ). Through that learning, the pattern the original little guys made has more weight and will tend to repeat. But again, not always.

After a while, a song... emerges. A kind of "emergent intelligence."

The resulting song can be quite complex and varied. Of course there's more to it, because songs have sections, but all in all the genres I'm using are very structured. Techno especially, is very easy for the AI. Sometimes I'm tasked with creating a theme in a particularly difficult genre, and that's when it gets really tricky/fun (such as some of the Indian ones, which were labors of love). In these cases, I may have to re-rerun many "generations" of the AI through the same song from beginning to end, with different parameters/instruments, but with the same patterns/learning, because what can happen in these cases is that it starts out simple, and increases in complexity as it goes, so the start can sometimes be a bit boring.

Also keep in mind this is just a conceptual explanation. The code is much less amusing. Thinking of naming processes "bots" though just for fun.

I hope I explained it OK. Listen, I'm not saying it's Watson or anything, it's really just a necessary step I had to take in order to make the computer do what I wanted it to do. I tried out some different ideas, and this one worked the best. I like the result at least :)

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Adam from Brain.fm here! Happy to answer any questions. :) I've been doing this stuff for a while and I love talking about it. I've contacted Giovanni, our lead neuroscientist, so hopefully he'll be able to get on soon as well. I'm a regular of HN and it's wild to see something of mine up here.

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Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Adam from Brain.fm here! Happy to answer any questions. :) I've been doing this stuff for a while and I love talking about it. I've contacted Giovanni, our lead neuroscientist, so hopefully he'll be able to get on soon as well. I'm a regular of HN and it's wild to see something of mine up here.

I have tried a both a 15-minute "quick relax" session and a full 8-hour sleep session. Based on the "quick relax" session, I assumed this music was based primarily on binaural beats (hence the need for headphones), but the sleep session didn't seem to use the beats as strongly (if at all). I have trouble sleeping at night due to both stress and restless leg syndrome, and while this music didn't put me to sleep right away (and the headphones definitely didn't help), I do think I was better off last night with the music than without.

I would be willing to pay for this, but the current price is too high. I think about $24/year would be something I could justify (but still not an impulse buy). I listen to a lot of DJ mixes for free on Youtube/Mixcloud and buy a few tracks a month to support the producers I like. If I were to add your service as well, that would more than double my cost of music.

Re: AI generated music to improve focus, relaxation and sleep

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Adam from Brain.fm here! Happy to answer any questions. :) I've been doing this stuff for a while and I love talking about it. I've contacted Giovanni, our lead neuroscientist, so hopefully he'll be able to get on soon as well. I'm a regular of HN and it's wild to see something of mine up here.

Do you have any science to back those claims up? What are you basing it on?

On the brain.fm they list results, but they are super flimsy. For focus, for example, n=17, and the difference between music vs non-music is much smaller than the standard deviation of either group.

So it's possible this stuff helps you focus, but it doesn't appear to be showing up on these studies.

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