I found the intense focus music (and the "white noise"/hissing in it) to be really, really grating and kinda put me on-edge while listening. I also found the repetitiveness/predictability of the rhythm to be troubling - I'd end up focusing on the noise and thinking about "what was coming next" to be ultra-distracting. Kinda like when you have a noisy neighbor at night and you are just trying to get to sleep, but all…
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#202I like the way the music sounds but I'm very skeptical of the science and the AI behind it.
Hey, Adam from Brian.fm here. Thanks, glad you like it. There's a piece of my soul in that thing. Or I assume soul-transfer is what happens when you go full hermit for 5 months and gain 50 pounds creating something like this. Any questions about the science or AI, happy to talk about it. :)
Good for you, but that's none of my business. I don't want to be harsh, but I don't like this kind of emotional manipulation. You're trying to prime me to be buddies with you and cut you some slack.
I have some questions. In what sense is this an AI and not simply a computer program? Did you use methods that are discussed in AI or machine learning textbooks and conferences, or did you simply put the cool label AI on what is essentially "just" a hand crafted algorithm?
I know there is no clear separation as AI is a subset of algorithms, but still I feel some dishonesty going on here.
Also in other comments by the company, I can see the attitude about the science that (not precisely quoted) "we're not sure yet, we're excited to find out" and "give it a try and compare it to other music how it goes for you" etc. Well, no. You're making the claim that there is some solid science going on behind this, that you have more than a dozen studies and you put pretty, science-y charts on the website. Now I'm not saying that it doesn't work, but please show me the peer reviewed randomized double blind studies that show altered brain waves and some significant quantitative change (preferably not only self-reported things about how they "feel"). Preferably there should be different groups: no music, generic pop music, normal ambient music, some baseline of your company's music and finally the specially crafted fully optimized version of your company's music.
Until I can see that, verified also by someone who's not paid by the company, I'll have my doubts.
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#204Doesn't that "or not" invalidates all the disclaimer? How could they enforce that clause in a court?
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#205Also wanted to note:
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#206I still can't find anything better to program to than Nujabes. I'm going to give this a genuine shot, but Jun Seba really left his mark on me for life. I find myself listening to his albums and songs at least twice a day. I think it's because of his repetitive beats, smooth strings and soft instrumentation. There's a reason there are 10 hour 'homework' edits on youtube for almost all of his songs. Counting Stars: htt…
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#207I believe taste/preference as the differentiator is missing. The "intense + focus" music on brain.fm puts me to sleep. My coding music is ASOT weekly series, it's usually couple of hours of house and trance music where I get immersed into coding zone and once finished i take a 10-15min break, repeat. When I concentrate I don't hear anything that's when I know I'm in the zone. It's my preference and it's surely differ…
DJ Apsara, After Dark. https://soundcloud.com/search?q=dj%20apsara%20afterdark
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dr. Steven Novella on brainwave entrainment, from 2008: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/brainwave-entra... "That is generally where the science ends and the pseudoscience begins. A number of companies and individuals have then extrapolated from the phenomenon of entrainment to claim that altering the brain waves changes the actual functioning of the brain. There is no theoretical or empirical basis for t…
Hey, glad you like the music. :) Regarding the Novella quote: > [no evidence that] altering the brain waves changes the actual functioning of the brain That post was from a while ago, so I'm not sure if he's updated his opinion, but there's plenty of evidence that changing brain waves affects the functioning of the brain. I feel I should have Giovanni respond to that specifically so I'll get him on here as soon as he…
I would be super interested to see some evidence. Any peer reviewed journals would be fine
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Best list I found in this thread yet. Am I the only one that likes to work to (mostly) instrumental sludge metal and post-rock? ISIS — Celestial (2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XN-3YZL5Y
I work to much of the same type of music, although I tend to group instrumental post-rock/post-punk (e.g. isis, pelican, russian circles, mono) with some electronic (e.g. ratatat) and small amounts of punk (tragedy/hhig, neurosis). Compared to what I usually listen to, the brain.fm focus channel didn't do anything for me.
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#210"Library Background Noise for Relaxation"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTm2oQRsISk
"DISTANT TRAINS ECHOING IN THE RAIN.. Relaxing SoundScape to help Sleep, Study & Meditate"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXoxV-MFMo
"One Hour of HQ Coffee Shop Background Noise"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdLmxy06H0
brain.fm is great, too!
But honestly, silence + just getting into the groove works best. Minimizing distractions is key. Unfortunately, nothing beats late nights at meeting these criteria.