Whos using Mint these days anyway ?
A lot of people according to http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity. I was surprised to see Mint take the first spot.
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#13Fucking bang on point. Mint has a nice out of the box experience but after using it for a while you begin to see all the shit they stuffed in the cracks. It is a shame as Cinnamon is a lovely DE, I wish there were an official Ubuntu build with Cinnamon as the default DE similar to Xubuntu with Xfce.
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#14Could [Linux] be added before Mint? I thought it was about Mint.com
Ditto. To be fair, Mint.com has been a lot more buggy lately.
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#15Whos using Mint these days anyway ?
I am at my home workstation - I don't much like ubuntu, am generally happy with debian or fedora, and have played with arch, gentoo, and others, but had heard good things about mint "just working" so thought to try it out.
It installed really smoothly, and was really quick and easy to set up for me, and my not-so-techy wife.
It installed the nvidia drivers when I asked it to without having to touch the commandline (there's a "drivers" or something like that tool in the system settings). I'd had some problems with them before on a pure debian install, so I was quite impressed.
In general, it was a pretty good experience. I'm thinking I may well switch over to fedora at home though. With my home machine I want something that just works, that I don't need to go faffing with config files any more. I have enough of that at work.
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#16I had to quit using Mint because a lot of packages in their repo are really, really, old. Just to give example that made me install Manjaro on friends PC is ownCloud client for file syncing. It's a few years old, contains a lot of security bugs and doesn't work with HTTPS. You need to add repo with opensuse in URL address. Mint developers were contacted by ownCloud developers to resolve the issue, a few years ago, and they ignored it.
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#17Never let a good security breach not be an opportunity to air a bunch of unrelated greviences, apparently.
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#18Whos using Mint these days anyway ?
Ubuntu refugees like me. I not only don't like the new UI (and amazon shopping lens) but there's also hundreds of little things like gnome2 gedit having a usable search/replace dialog box as opposed to the gnome3 thingy-in -the-corner.
Also I like to be able to take a theme and modify components one by one like changing the colour of title bars or the font in menus without having to wade through 2k lines of CSS and non-existent documentation and then spend half an hour debugging why it's changed things all over the place. The v3 theming interface might as well let theme creators use obfuscation DRM to prevent users from modifying their themes.
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#19> Add to that, that they do not care about copyright and license issues and just ship their ISOs with pre-installed Oracle Java and Adobe Flash packages and several multimedia codec packages which infringe patents and may therefore not be distributed freely at all in countries like the US.
Hmm, that was actually one of major selling points for Mint around me - it was the distro that "worked", with relevant software, codecs and drivers being preinstalled and not crippled due to strange laws on the other side of the ocean.
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#20> Secondly, they are mixing their own binary packages with binary packages from Debian and Ubuntu without rebuilding the latter. This creates something that we in Debian call a "FrankenDebian" which results in system updates becoming unpredictable This is interesting because Debian itself encourages derivative projects to use their binary packages[1]: > For those derivatives that re-use Debian binary packages, add so…
I believe the problem is the mixing of Debian and Ubuntu binaries rather than the fact they're not recompiling everything. Ubuntu doesn't just take Debian and add a few extra packages - it's a complete recompile with package versions likely don't match any Debian release.
Oh, Linux Mint mixes Debian and Ubuntu packages by default? I was under the impression that there is Linux Mint based on Ubuntu and Linux Mint Debian Edition based on Debian.