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FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

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Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#31
"The San Bernardino litigation isn’t about trying to set a precedent or send any kind of message. It is about the victims and justice."

When the government revokes the Gulf of Tonkin resolution I will again put faith in its ability to act responsibly with emergency powers and provisions that might, just might set a precedence. Until then, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, fuck you.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#32
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except he did go to Congress, and came back with nothing, forcing him to use the AWA. So who is pushing who exactly? And who has a louder voice in criminal justice matters than the FBI?

Hadn't thought about it this way before, but he might be turning to the AWA because a reasonable piece of legislation can't make it through congress.

Reasonable according to whom? And Congress passed a ton of stuff last year, it's not like it is totally deadlocked.

The FBI would love a federal law that forces Apple to crack phones for them. Since they don't have one, they are trying to get a court to invent one by stretching the All Writs Act.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#33

> We don’t want to break anyone’s encryption or set a master key loose on the land. This directly contradicts Tim Cook's statement, in fact he used the same term "master key": > In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. It either is a master key or it isn't.

It's beyond the capabilities of most iphone users to lock their phone with a passphrase that is secure enough to withstand a trillion guesses per second, remember it and deal with inputing it often, so yes, this is de facto a master key to iphones (of course some judge would expect this same type of software to be implemented for all iphone versions).

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#34
post #29

> We don’t want to break anyone’s encryption or set a master key loose on the land. This directly contradicts Tim Cook's statement, in fact he used the same term "master key": > In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. It either is a master key or it isn't.

The precedent is a master key that can be used to compel Apple (or any other company) to do this again in the future for any device.

It sounds like Cook wasn't talking about a "precedent" but about the actual OS:

"Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong hands, this software — which does not exist today — would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone’s physical possession.

The FBI may use different words to describe this tool, but make no mistake: Building a version of iOS that bypasses security in this way would undeniably create a backdoor. And while the government may argue that its use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such control."

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#35
> ...it does highlight that we have awesome new technology that creates a serious tension between two values we all treasure — privacy and safety.

I hate this narrative so much. Just because we happen to be storing everything we do now, doesn't suddenly create tension between privacy and safety. We used to not store it at all! It's really just a question of keeping privacy with new tech.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#36
post #24

> We don’t want to break anyone’s encryption or set a master key loose on the land. This directly contradicts Tim Cook's statement, in fact he used the same term "master key": > In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. It either is a master key or it isn't.

It isn't. the FBI asked for a specialised OS image that would have a check so that it could only work on this specific phone. Combined with Apple's encryption/signing of the update, this image could not be applied to any other device. So the "work" asked of Apple would produce something that would only work on the phone with the warrant

Similarly, you could reasonably argue that if there is a master key in this situation, it is Apple's firmware signing key, which the company already possess and has been using as a consequence of its inadequately examined security model.

Edit: LOL, downvotes because you don't like it. Apple made a bad design decision, and it's coming to bite them in the ass. Yeah, it sucks, but I'm not the one who designed the backdoor. Blame the corporate culture, not the messenger. Fix the problem and tell your customers about it. Don't pretend it doesn't exist.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#37
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't. the FBI asked for a specialised OS image that would have a check so that it could only work on this specific phone. Combined with Apple's encryption/signing of the update, this image could not be applied to any other device. So the "work" asked of Apple would produce something that would only work on the phone with the warrant

And next week they ask for them to sign the next thing to work on the next phone. At this point, the only valid answer from Apple is that any future devices (if they aren't this way already) should either require the password to do a software update, or wipe the phone.

Right, if the FBI has a search warrant for a phone, Apple can be compelled to comply.

The core thing that makes this not a master key is that Apple has to make the decision to comply on each phone (and warrant). Which gives them the opportunity to push back if it chooses to. If the FBI has somebody's phone and secretly wants to unlock it, it can't without going through the courts and Apple.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#38
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't. the FBI asked for a specialised OS image that would have a check so that it could only work on this specific phone. Combined with Apple's encryption/signing of the update, this image could not be applied to any other device. So the "work" asked of Apple would produce something that would only work on the phone with the warrant

So Tim Cook was wrong? Look at what he wrote: "Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong hands, this software — which does not exist today — would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone’s physical possession. The FBI may use different wo…

Can an analogy be "wrong"? It's certainly a stretch to call it a master key. I'd call it more of a bump key. :P But discussing the rightness or wrongness of an analogy is probably beside the point.

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#39
post #5

These people are either being intentionally deceitful or are simply incompetent in understanding the full implications of what they're asking. Either possibility is disturbing.

Despite the obvious application of Hanlon's razor, the latter is simply not plausible. The release statement opens with a stone cold lie.

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/70115236890220134...

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/70115264061335142...

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/70115296105404006...

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/70115860701918412...

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/70115891912992768...

Re: FBI Director Comments on San Bernardino Matter

#40

It should be resolved by the American people deciding how we want to govern ourselves in a world we have never seen before. We shouldn’t drift to a place—or be pushed to a place by the loudest voices—because finding the right place, the right balance, will matter to every American for a very long time. So why are they asking the courts to stretch the 1789 All Writs Act beyond its breaking point, instead of going to C…

> ... instead of going to Congress for a new law

I hate to be in the position of defending the FBI, but this new law would be irrelevant if it's ex post facto, yeah?

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