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Apple is hiring engineers to bring WebRTC to Safari

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Re: Apple is hiring engineers to bring WebRTC to Safari

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Post by fredsir »

shmerl wrote: post #34
fredsir wrote: post #33

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I partially agree. I know that Safari does not support everything say Chrome does, but if you do not need those features, what does it matter? An example: I use Safari without having flash installed. I rarely need flash. If I do need it, I would rather open Chrome and close it when I am done with the flash thing and go back to Safari. Why? Why not use Chrome all the time since it supports (almost) everything Safari d…

Flash is a poor example because Flash really should be gone for good already. The problem is not "features" but Apple holding back technology progress. That's simply bad. There were some recent articles calling Safari "the new IE" because of this.

Check my comment above to Kequc.

Re: Apple is hiring engineers to bring WebRTC to Safari

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Post by JupiterMoon »

tehbeard wrote: post #30
oceanstone wrote: post #28

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> How about the security issue with WebRTC where the browser leaks the IP address Yes, even if the user is behind a VPN, WebRTC will expose their ISP-given public IP. Luckily Firefox allows WebRTC to be disabled. Recently they added a new setting that alleviates that leak for the majority of VPN users, while allowing WebRTC to still be enabled. Would be awesome if Chrome allowed WebRTC to be disabled as well.

Forgive my lack of networking knowledge, but why aren't the UDP packets also sent over the VPN?

If the information in the packets contains your original IP address it doesn't matter how the packet is routed in terms of privacy.

Re: Apple is hiring engineers to bring WebRTC to Safari

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Post by kdeldycke »

ilostmykeys wrote: post #16

How about the security issue with WebRTC where the browser leaks the IP address? It's part of the way WebRTC works so I can't see how that can be fixed. It's both a security issue and a key enabling feature. Update: It looks like Google Chrome (desktop) team has published a plugin that alleviates the problem but can cause performance degradations with apps that use WebRTC. They seem to suggest that a decent fix won't…

Install uBlock origin plugin, which has a "Prevent WebRTC from leaking local IP address" option: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Prevent-WebRTC-from-l...

Re: Apple is hiring engineers to bring WebRTC to Safari

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Post by esailija »

greggman wrote: post #12
pedalpete wrote: post #3

From what I've been told, they are looking to hire 1 engineer. I guess that is better than nothing, but it doesn't look like webrtc is going to be any sort of priority for them. Also, it may not be super valuable in Safari, which has a small market-share. Where it is needed is mobile safari. From what I understand having it in Safari does not mean it gets built into mobile Safari. Also, note the date of the posting.…

iOS Safari has a large marketshare. WebRTC is more than video conferencing. It's also peer to peer networking which is a huge win for certain kinds of apps

I would be surprised to see any web standard that makes iOS Safari better for "appy web apps" (web apps that are more like native apps rather than documents and forms) implemented, as that eventually just makes Safari an alternative AppStore without reviews.

Of course I would love it because as a developer this is the dream but I am very skeptical that Apple will do it.

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