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Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

#11

A ticket to TED costs $8500. I didn't realize that.....I look at the audience at TED talks a whole different way now.

There's two things non-technology people don't seem to know about TED when they mention it to me.

First that TEDx events have little to do with TED. Second the prices for proper events are in the elitist levels of society. It's no surprise when you start to notice the audience members are more famous than the speakers.

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

#12

Is there any actual content in this article? Other than how awesome TED is? Did they address a single concern or critique of TED in this article? No... Just that it's 'awesome'. Well ok then TED organizers... Thanks for reminding us that you think you're so great, you feel no need to listen to anyone.

I'm not sure it really is as pandering as you make it out to be. In some places I wasn't sure what the author thought of TED at all. For example, this sentence is particularly pointed: "Where an audience that gave a standing ovation to Ed Snowden a couple of years ago happily wears tracking devices on their badges that allows fellow attendees to know where in the facility they are within a few meters."

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

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post #10

TED, or the perfect display of what public speaking is today: that is, getting some kind of Tony Robbins on stage, who wont be shy of using the same tricks they learnt at some toaster club, to inspire and wow a crowd that's actually more here to enjoy their charisma rather than their ideas. TED is the absolute evidence that the powerpointization of ideas is in its terminal stage.

True that, which is sad, because charisma can legitimately lower the difficulty of understanding complex ideas; think of your best teachers/favorite professors. I wish TED was filled with more Richard Feynman (charisma * ideas) and less Tony Robbins (charisma % ideas).

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

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post #10

TED, or the perfect display of what public speaking is today: that is, getting some kind of Tony Robbins on stage, who wont be shy of using the same tricks they learnt at some toaster club, to inspire and wow a crowd that's actually more here to enjoy their charisma rather than their ideas. TED is the absolute evidence that the powerpointization of ideas is in its terminal stage.

It is pompous entertainment. But then again, I can't help but think of what else a modern conference can be but that.

There's a programming conference in my city, a thousand bucks a ticket.

All the videos are going to be put online afterwards. Why would I spend a thousand dollars for the privilege of sitting through them with no ability to fast forward?

'Networking' and all that bullshit right? As if we can't organize people to come hang out at a pub with everyone paying their tab at the end of the night?

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

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This banned TED talk is all you need to know about TED and where their motivations are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g Peak TED is actually this video on how to use one paper towel when washing your hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMBSblpcrc . You mean if you shake your hands and fling water all over the bathroom then you don't need as much paper to absorb the remaining water? How revolutionary.

Scoff all you want, but in the years since I watched that I have dried my hands with one paper towel every time. One anecdote, sure, and I don't watch TED anymore. But this is hardly the worst TED talk. At least it provided some practical advice rather than vaguely asserting some breakthrough.

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

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post #10

TED, or the perfect display of what public speaking is today: that is, getting some kind of Tony Robbins on stage, who wont be shy of using the same tricks they learnt at some toaster club, to inspire and wow a crowd that's actually more here to enjoy their charisma rather than their ideas. TED is the absolute evidence that the powerpointization of ideas is in its terminal stage.

True that, which is sad, because charisma can legitimately lower the difficulty of understanding complex ideas; think of your best teachers/favorite professors. I wish TED was filled with more Richard Feynman (charisma * ideas) and less Tony Robbins (charisma % ideas).

Perhaps I'm nitpicking but charisma gets people to listen, that's it.

It is not related to the quality of the content.

The problem with Tony Robbins is he's mister positive and only focused on personal improvement. These are enormous constraints that ignore the bigger picture.

Feynman is great at explaining physics because it's not wishy washy - it is also really not that interesting past the cute basics, sooner or later you have to put in the hard work.

TED is fundamentally flawed because things worth knowing - cannot all be politically correct and positive.

Once you constrain yourself to being Mr/Ms Positive only, you end up being a delusional asshole because you are denying a big chunk of life any attention.

There is no fixing TED as a result - it's more interested in money than truth.

As are most people, hence why we are where we are :)

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

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post #11

A ticket to TED costs $8500. I didn't realize that.....I look at the audience at TED talks a whole different way now.

There's two things non-technology people don't seem to know about TED when they mention it to me. First that TEDx events have little to do with TED. Second the prices for proper events are in the elitist levels of society. It's no surprise when you start to notice the audience members are more famous than the speakers.

>First that TEDx events have little to do with TED.

hah. Yes, the continued existence of TEDx indicates that the organizers of TED are not aware of just how severely TEDx damages their brand.

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

#18

A ticket to TED costs $8500. I didn't realize that.....I look at the audience at TED talks a whole different way now.

There's a whole caste of people you will never interact with, they're the TED attendees.

I'd venture a guess that as soon as TED became a little popular, it's value actually went down because a bunch of blow-hards would spend the 8500$ to try and give a sales pitch to the elite caste. When that happens, the elite move on.

As an example - in Toronto there's a thing called 'Granite Club', which's just a big gym with tennis courts etc. The initiation fee is 53,000$ per couple.

That's just to make sure people who actually work for a living can't afford it.

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

#19
TED is now a full-blown lifestyle company like GoPro or Whole Foods, except instead of one or two celebrity endorsements, they gain a new implicit endorsement every time they book a new speaker. franchising TEDx was a brilliant move; first, for the casual consumer, TED content (by people like Bill Gates) is confounded with TEDx content from some local idiot. from a valuation point of view this increases your average ad rates. line/brand extension, this is marketing 101. TED jumped the shark a long time ago when they started having poetry readings and shit.

Re: We Are Now at Peak TED

#20

This banned TED talk is all you need to know about TED and where their motivations are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g Peak TED is actually this video on how to use one paper towel when washing your hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMBSblpcrc . You mean if you shake your hands and fling water all over the bathroom then you don't need as much paper to absorb the remaining water? How revolutionary.

Why was that talk banned? Doesn't seem very controversial?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Hanauer#TED_Talk_controve...
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