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Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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This is imperial. I especially like the notion that Ministry only answers to reporters with mainland press pass. The China is the center of the civilized world again, the world where the US is a barbarian outskirt. Will the foreign websites published in Mandarin be banned to view from mainland China?

Ban the sea trade and the tea. History repeats.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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The government censor in New Zealand wants web sites to submit their material, item by item, to the censor's office for approval. Australia and the UK already have firewalls that filter all Internet traffic which "my bad, so sorry" seem to keep "accidentally" including all sorts of sites their backing legislation doesn't justify (at least as far as anyone can tell - the Australian government list is confidential). Th…

I'm in the UK. Can you give me a URL that is blocked by the national firewall?

All the BBC national content is blocked, you cannot see it from outside the UK, unless you proxy through the UK IP address.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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My brother in law lived there for years and claims that the general sense is that if the leadership can't maintain at least 5-10% GDP growth forever they will lose favor. People there are very unsatisfied with the government but they're also afraid of revolution. Paranoia seems a good description of the government's mentality.

Are exponential functions taught in China?

Comparing to what is taught in the US schools, exponentially more often.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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These things work until they suddenly stop working. The USSR was considered to be as wealthy as the USA until a few years before its end. Few people really saw it coming, and they were not believed by the media.

Is there a good summary of this anywhere? Sounds incredibly interesting.

I confirm that. In 1989 I talked out a stipend from the enterprise I wished to work for in the USSR. I thought my future is all set. What happened in 1991 was a complete surprise for me, and completely redefined my future.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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The definitions are far more vague in this case. They could basically make the case that anything is "undermining social stability"; whereas making the same judgement in Canada would be tougher. "endangering social morality or national cultural tradition" could probably even include publishing anything upsetting or otherwise true about the party.

> making the same judgement in Canada would be tougher. Kind of like stripping the citizenship of and deporting a Canadian who was born in Canada and never stepped foot in the country they're being deported to?

that would be a waste. Indefinite prison term and slavework in forest enterprises of Saskatchewan would suit better to anyone undermining social order of Canada.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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"acquisition of an online publishing license"!? "How do you license media in an age when everyone could become a writer and publisher?" As far as I can imagine - you don't, that's the thing! Maybe they won't do you anything for now, but if they don't like what you're publishing they will have a ready-available "legal" reason for detaining you for publishing without a publishing license (which of course could be claim…

This is how business is conducted in mainland China. Want to publish your blog - apply for a state license first.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Not really. The fallacy is likely to come on the next line below the quote, where the quote gets used as an excuse to ignore all laws. including things like traffic regulations and public drunkenness. The overall message is that laws and government is an obstruction to be ignored or demolished. As i get older i learn that while it is good to question laws and regulations, many of them have actual factual reasons to e…

I think it's simpler than that, as you get older you recognize patterns, and you then associate those patterns to things, negative or positive. I see this with myself and people who are aging with me, we have so much to do as we get older that we have automated thinking around certain subjects. I think the younger people lack this conditioning to things as they are and can see better methodologies for approaching the…

That seems overly dismissive of experience, while overly optimistic regarding the creativity of youth.

Way too many times the young dismiss existing conditions simply because they feel constrained by them, and lack the context for why said conditions came to be. End result is that they rebel against everything just because its there by (learned) reflex.

Yes, as one grow older one fall into patterns. But i think quite a bit of it is because of the work pace of modern day rather than some condition of age.

Edit: Again from personal experience, i have come to think that people need to experience something to really get it. So if you tell someone young that drinking is bad (in excess), they may or may not listen (and may just ignore you because you are old). But let them experience it under relatively controlled conditions, rather than some random binge hidden away somewhere, and maybe some synapses will connect up (and quite a few destroyed most likely) and the message will be received.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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> I don't think China has any intention of attacking and occupying India. I'm sure they are more than capable if they wanted to but there is just no incentive. They do not. Conquering and occupaying a country with the size, population, and nuclear weapons of India would be a massive undertaking, I think the largest such war in history. And remember that China would have to cross the Himalyas to reach India, maybe the…

Japan? The country that has in its constitution that it cannot hold an offensive military, nor take part in researching/developing offensive military technology... Which expert believes that? Or do you mean historically? (Pre WWII) I would hazard a guess that China's korean war "Human wave" tactics would be sufficient against Japan (assuming US was not also involved).

> Japan? The country that has in its constitution that it cannot hold an offensive military ...

The consequences of that are not what one might think. Japan has the 7th largest military budget in the world, and it's been high for a long time (i.e., they've accumulated quite a bit). Much of what they own, from fighter planes to warships to submarines, could just as well be used to attack as to defend. The current Japanese government has been stretching the bounds of the pacifist Constitution greatly; they are not going to sit by and watch China dominate them and the region, and they want Japan to take its place in world affairs commesurate with its population (10th largest) and economy (3rd). For example, they now take part in multinational military operations, they are equipping and training their marines to storm islands, they are exporting Japanese military equipment, etc. Also, remember that Japanese companies are world-class in technology; they can build some pretty good equipment.

Japan long has been considered to have one of the finest militaries, restrained by policy - and that policy is fading away.

> I would hazard a guess that China's korean war "Human wave" tactics would be sufficient against Japan

They'd get pretty wet. Also, that doesn't work in wars against modern countries whose air power is so accurate (the Gulf War is considered the turning point in military history on this issue). The Chinese, and many other large countries, have been shrinking the number of soldiers in their military as a result.

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