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Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by olavk »

prescod wrote: post #57
olavk wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arc snarfs the string implementation from MzScheme which support Unicode in The Right Way, as code points rather than octets.

So should I infer that the only reason UTF-8 is mentioned is that the reader APIs do not let you select the codec? Or is even that provided in which case it is accurate to say that Arc supports Unicode-in-general?

Arc uses MzSchemes reader (it modifies the readtable slightly to support []-syntax). AFAIK you cannot access the reader API from inside Arc. The reason Utf-8 is mentioned is that it is the default encoding when MzScheme reads or writes files or streams.

I don't think anyone at this point would claim that Arc supports unicode-in-general.

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by benmathes »

henning wrote: post #59
far33d wrote: post #8

So. A note to all the "unicode makes this unusable" people - Apparently, while you were complaining, someone else was solving.

OK. Now how about database access (with support for prepared statements), regular expressions, and networking?

http://paulgraham.com/core.html

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by henning »

benmathes wrote: post #62
henning wrote: post #59

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OK. Now how about database access (with support for prepared statements), regular expressions, and networking?

http://paulgraham.com/core.html

Super-duper. I'm not going to use Arc for anything serious until essential libraries are in place.

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by paulgb »

rokhayakebe wrote: post #41

geeks. you guys forget about us sometimes. what is this?

Hacker News now supports "utf-8", a way of storing text that supports characters from languages other than English.

The excitement comes from the fact that Hacker News is programmed in Arc, and the change to Hacker News implies that Arc will soon support utf-8 too.

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by curi »

curi wrote: post #35
microdan wrote: post #27

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I think the complaints were more about how pg was originally saying that he intended to never support Unicode. That said, people should realize that UTF-8 encoding/decoding is the zeroth step to internationalization with Unicode.

pg didn't say that. people just made it up.

What kind of site does it make YC if this is how to get karma?

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by Xichekolas »

henning wrote: post #63
benmathes wrote: post #62

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http://paulgraham.com/core.html

Super-duper. I'm not going to use Arc for anything serious until essential libraries are in place.

Darn.

At least you were kind enough to let us know.

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by brent »

pg wrote: post #19
vidar wrote: post #16

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As an Icelander, I must surely ask what pushed you to use Icelandic as an example. :)

That it would look foreign to the maximum number of people.

Success!!

Re: Smjörið er brætt og hveitið smátt og smátt hrært út í það, þangað til það er gengið upp í smjörið.

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Post by dzorz »

prescod wrote: post #48

Do I understand correctly that Arc strings are sequences of octets? If so: I really don't want to be a negativity guy but it seems like every language that has made an 8-bit string the default string type has regretted it later because it is so painful to change it without breaking code. Okay, Paul says that he won't mind breaking code. Maybe he means it, but it doesn't make any sense to me to knowingly and conscious…

Could you offer a better solution? What would your solution offer that octets do not? Random character access? No, because not a single unicode encoding offers easy random character access (because they are made of possibly several codepoints, which, in some encodings, are made of more than one basic "chars"). Gylph, word and sentence segmentation? I guess not.
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