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Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I think that this is just the beginning. In my opinion, we're heading for a tech bust that's going to spread to the rest of the economy, and deflate additional bubbles (housing, for one). The government has been pushing cheap money for the better part of a decade in the name of creating the appearance of a 'recovery', but what they've really done is build a new house of cards. Make no mistake: the 'free' money that's…

I predict, that in the future, there will be a recession. Also, at some point, an economic boom. Feel free to quote me on that. I am unable to give exact dates, but there is a 25% chance that it will begin in the spring (what year, I cannot say)

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Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I'll nail it down a little for you. I think it's going to be within two years, based purely on asset valuation : income ... which isn't a particularly sophisticated way to analyze it, but when people can't afford things anymore, they stop buying them, and that has predictable effects.

I think you should both put your money where your mouths are: longbets.org

Don't even need Longbets; just invest in or short the stock market.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I'll nail it down a little for you. I think it's going to be within two years, based purely on asset valuation : income ... which isn't a particularly sophisticated way to analyze it, but when people can't afford things anymore, they stop buying them, and that has predictable effects.

I think you should both put your money where your mouths are: longbets.org

wow.. didn't know such a site existed...will definitely point more people to the site when they keep making these types of predictions. That was such a fun read (looks like the site has been around for a long time)

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I predict, that in the future, there will be a recession. Also, at some point, an economic boom. Feel free to quote me on that. I am unable to give exact dates, but there is a 25% chance that it will begin in the spring (what year, I cannot say)

I'll nail it down a little for you. I think it's going to be within two years, based purely on asset valuation : income ... which isn't a particularly sophisticated way to analyze it, but when people can't afford things anymore, they stop buying them, and that has predictable effects.

If you strongly believe this, you could do something similar to what the guy did in 'The Big Short', short the relevant markets within your timeframe and you'll be recession proof.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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There is no shortage of real estate, and real estate historically is very cyclical. Even in an insane place like SFO, a few high profile failures can shutdown the cash pipeline for all sorts of companies. No cash, no coders, no rent. 2008 proved that when people are underwater, they walk away from mortgages because they see no consequence.

In the 2008 crisis home prices dropped by like 10-15%. The housing market didn't collapse. It's not as if the "bubble burst" and housing was worthless after that.

Not sure about that. My house and that of most friends dropped around 25-35% from the peak in 06-07 by 08-09 and only got back to the peak in 2015.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I think that this is just the beginning. In my opinion, we're heading for a tech bust that's going to spread to the rest of the economy, and deflate additional bubbles (housing, for one). The government has been pushing cheap money for the better part of a decade in the name of creating the appearance of a 'recovery', but what they've really done is build a new house of cards. Make no mistake: the 'free' money that's…

I predict the bust will happen because the HN/Silicon Valley hivemind so obviously wants it to and so we'll all bet on each other's failure until it is realized. It really seems like if we all agreed to keep the music playing, the music would continue playing. But once we decide it's going to stop, it has to.

No. The people at the top providing the money for this circus are the ones with the power to stop the music, and they're stopping it because the companies they funded aren't performing.

You actually can't just keep dumping money into companies that are doing nothing but burning it.

But, yes, for the record, I do want the bubble to burst, because the world has real problems and I just got a cold recruiting email from someone building a GIF keyboard. "Silicon Valley" is a spectacular, world historical squandering of brain power and it needs to stop.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I predict the bust will happen because the HN/Silicon Valley hivemind so obviously wants it to and so we'll all bet on each other's failure until it is realized. It really seems like if we all agreed to keep the music playing, the music would continue playing. But once we decide it's going to stop, it has to.

No. The people at the top providing the money for this circus are the ones with the power to stop the music, and they're stopping it because the companies they funded aren't performing. You actually can't just keep dumping money into companies that are doing nothing but burning it. But, yes, for the record, I do want the bubble to burst, because the world has real problems and I just got a cold recruiting email from…

>"Silicon Valley" is a spectacular, world historical squandering of brain power and it needs to stop.

Are you implying that there are less-frivolous actors offering competitive salaries and getting ignored, or that SV is inflating the price of programming labor? Because if the latter, and you're hoping for a correction of programming salaries down to lower-middle-class clerical work that humanitarians can afford, won't those with brain power just "squander" it in some other better-paying field?

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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There is no shortage of real estate, and real estate historically is very cyclical. Even in an insane place like SFO, a few high profile failures can shutdown the cash pipeline for all sorts of companies. No cash, no coders, no rent. 2008 proved that when people are underwater, they walk away from mortgages because they see no consequence.

In the 2008 crisis home prices dropped by like 10-15%. The housing market didn't collapse. It's not as if the "bubble burst" and housing was worthless after that.

That very much depends on where you live. It wasn't that bad in the Bay Area because there wasn't a building boom, but in places that there was a boom the prices climbed very quickly and indeed collapsed even more quickly. Las Vegas, Phoenix, Miami and other markets were all hit very hard (60% or so).

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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No. The people at the top providing the money for this circus are the ones with the power to stop the music, and they're stopping it because the companies they funded aren't performing. You actually can't just keep dumping money into companies that are doing nothing but burning it. But, yes, for the record, I do want the bubble to burst, because the world has real problems and I just got a cold recruiting email from…

>"Silicon Valley" is a spectacular, world historical squandering of brain power and it needs to stop. Are you implying that there are less-frivolous actors offering competitive salaries and getting ignored, or that SV is inflating the price of programming labor? Because if the latter, and you're hoping for a correction of programming salaries down to lower-middle-class clerical work that humanitarians can afford, won…

That's a great question. There's always going to be more money in causing suffering than fixing it, so maybe all of this is just inevitable.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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Side note: You're considered an "accredited investor" if you made $200k/year in each of the prior two years and expect a similar income in the current year. https://www.investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-bulletins/inve... So, not necessarily just "wealthy" individuals.

That's pretty wealthy by most standards, isn't it?

Yes, though in San Francisco it isn't, because the cost of living is so insanely high.
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