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Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Sounds like the normal thing in China. Make something illegal, don't enforce it, if someone's saying something you don't like then enforce it specifically against them, keeps everyone else in line.

This isn't exclusive to China. Many western countries have followed suit.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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There are some qualifiers around this alarming headline.

According to this story [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-set-to-ba...]:

'This ban covers words, pictures, maps, games, animation and sound of an "informational and thoughtful nature" -- unless they have approval from the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television.'

Still it's very onerous but not a complete shutdown.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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I see one point that would be illegal in Canada. All the others have language that makes them far more broad than any restrictions placed on our media here. But I'm probably brainwashed just like you my friend.

2, 3 and 5 are illegal in Canada (disclosing state secrets, inciting ethnic hatred/violence, and slander).

That's a generous reading of those points. You're not including everything.

#2 - endangering national security, or harming national honor and interests [national honor? not illegal in Canada]

#3 - undermining national unity, or going against ethnic customs and habits [going against ethnic habits? not illegal in Canada]

#5 - insulting or slandering others, infringing upon the legitimate rights of others [I'll give you that slander and infringing rights is illegal in Canada, insulting is not]

Note that all of these are vague, intentionally vague at that. Whether or not you violated these rules is entirely up to the interpretation of the CCP.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Because the west has been stepping up propaganda. I remember 5 years ago, most outlets had very pro-China things to say. Now it's undoubtedly taken a very negative turn. Daily stories about China's impending economic collapse, their various 'crackdowns', and so on. Even this article. To be honest, half of the stuff they want to ban isn't even allowable in Canadian media (literally, 3 out of 6 bullet points are strait…

Coverage has taken a negative turn because events have taken a negative turn. Growth is weakening. Shares have fallen sharply. Exports are down. And they're doing things like this.

It's funny, I see this all the time in the media. Yet observers whose opinions I trust far more, have differing thoughts. http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/macroeconomic-insig...

And of course, China's stock exchange is holding steady now, around their long term growth average. It was overvalued before, now it's corrected, and definitely hasn't crashed.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see one point that would be illegal in Canada. All the others have language that makes them far more broad than any restrictions placed on our media here. But I'm probably brainwashed just like you my friend.

2, 3 and 5 are illegal in Canada (disclosing state secrets, inciting ethnic hatred/violence, and slander).

Additionally, above the bullet points it states that only companies 100% owned (and operated) in china can publish .

This self-centered North American still reads al-jazeera, Guardian , and Der Spiegel .

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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I'm based in India and you make me want to hide.

I don't think China has any intention of attacking and occupying India. I'm sure they are more than capable if they wanted to but there is just no incentive.

Arunachal Pradesh, sheltering the Dalai Lama, generally not cozy with Pakistan (Chinese ally)... there are a lot of "incentives" that can be invented if they need a war to justify staying in power.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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China's leadership seems to be becoming more paranoid. Yet China has no serious external enemies other than the ones they make for themselves, the economy is stressed a bit but production is in great shape, and the standard of living has been rising for years. Why?

Umm...here - China's total debt risen to 346% of GDP in 2015. http://seekingalpha.com/article/3852886-chinese-debt-problem... - China exports fall 11.2% in January, imports down 18.8% http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/14/china-releases-trade-data-for... - China’s $6.7 trillion bond market is flashing the same danger signs that triggered a tumble in stocks http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2015/10/10/... - Ch…

I can't think of a metric more meaningless than debt/GDP.
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