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Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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I think the problem with this, like with most routes that involve a lawyer, is that this isn't about being enforceable or not, but whether you can actually pay in time and money to try to enforce it. That's why typically only companies try to enforce licenses. The author said that even writing the blog post was hard because he had not much time to spare. Imagine what it would cost if you sue and demand a newspaper li…

if a lawyer gets a percentage then it is hardly any work at all

Maybe, but there's also the cost of time, of actually finding that lawyer, convincing him of this, etc.

One of the things money seems to buy, which makes wealthy people/entities able to tackle problems that must of us realistically can't, is time.

I believe that in the end, the so-called rat-race is just a race to be free to have time, to do whatever you like to. Sure, some chains you will never be free of, but if you can shed enough chains off of you, you will have enough time to do other, more meaningful stuff, like defending your rights/intellectual property/privacy, etc.

In this case at least, it seems like the author finds it very hard to pursue this path, because in the end, what's in there for him? Maaaaaybe some money, after a long a emotionally tiring fight. On the other hand, you will lose time and money and potentially your health (since I don't see this route being stress-free).

In the end, like for most things, it ends up being a kind of personal-ROI thing. The return he sees is probably to low to be worth going after it, and the investment and risk too high.

And that's unfortunate, because in the end the abusive guys with money and time end up winning most battles :(

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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It suddenly occurs to me that in addition to it being rude to deep-link someone's content via , it may be dangerous to Daily Mail's security model. I wonder if they've configured everything correctly to ensure that an embedded iframe can't find its way to the user's Daily Mail cookies or credentials?

The browser's built-in same origin policy will prevent the iframed content from being able to access cookies in the containing frame because it is being hosted from a different domain.

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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The free market in action, I suppose.

Yes! Why is this a problem? The Daily Mail is SHIT. The majority of people LOVE to read about shit. It's not my thing, so I don't read it. That's what free market means.

think a bit harder

they still need to adhere to the rules of society (no stealing etc)

also, publication of stories in a newspaper has implication wider than the readership of that newspaper

and besides, any free market also needs rules in order to function properly

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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They had a story about the Orion capsule project recently [ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3432512/Orion... ], that included an infographic comparing rockets throughout space history. Take a look at that last one; fans of space simulators will recognize it. Seriously, they are garbage journalists. Editorial oversight and quality control is, at best, a hobby for that publication.

Wow. I can't believe this passes as a newspaper. Where are the editors? Can't they even screen the things they steal at least?

they don't care

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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I haven't thought much about this but I wonder if a possible way around the problem is for multiple victims to pull resources and combine their cases against a single offender. Someone would have to invest the time to create some structure to help the victims find each other but it should cost little to no money. A lawyer might even find it lucrative to do this? It's like the advertisements I see asking if I've ever…

That is pretty much what a class action suit is, but there has to be some realistic expectation of money at the end (or a deep principle the lawyers care about) for anyone to take it on. Finding each other is cheap, structuring such a case isn't.

I guess if it is lucrative, a lawyer will figure it out some day.

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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The free market in action, I suppose.

Yes! Why is this a problem? The Daily Mail is SHIT. The majority of people LOVE to read about shit. It's not my thing, so I don't read it. That's what free market means.

Because the same people who absorb this garbage have an influence on public policy. "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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The free market in action, I suppose.

The alternative would be a government committee deciding on what should or shouldn't be printed/displayed on the internet, I suppose.

The alternative is to pay teachers a higher salary in order to attract candidates who care enough to instill critical thought into their students.

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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The free market in action, I suppose.

Yes! Why is this a problem? The Daily Mail is SHIT. The majority of people LOVE to read about shit. It's not my thing, so I don't read it. That's what free market means.

We have a closed market, however. It's free for incumbent massive media organisations like DMG who only exist because Lord Rothmere and descendents have The Right Friends. You and me, however, can pucker up, pay, and play by the rules the free ones make.

Keynsian economics does not equate to "good and right" - it equates to Keynsian economics - and nepotism. So much nepotism.

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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I use this plugin (also available for Chrome) to redirect to pictures of tea and kittens should I accidental click on a Daily Mail link. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/kitten-block/

It would be nice if this plugin could be configured to do the same for a list of websites, and not just the Daily Mail.

It would be better if he determined the ip space of the internal daily mail employees and whitelist them. That way it all looks great for them, internally, but everyone else looking at that page sees an anti-daily mail screed... or just the word 'poop'

Re: The Daily Mail Stole My Visualization Twice

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How would the Daily Mail feel about (and what would they do) if someone constantly scraped their website and redistributed the content? Perhaps a fun side project called TheLessAdsDailyMail.com?

Copying an entire site is a bit different, if you copy one of their articles I doubt anything would happen. Maybe a sternly worded email. If you copied their entire site, used their name, and removed their ads I'm sure they'd get lawyers involved.

Oh, but you could have something in the footer that says "full credit for content to daisy mayall", which is on par with their citations.

It's a fun idea though - seo bomb them until their bottom line aches.

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