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Sundar Pichai Responds to Apple and the FBI Hacking Request

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Re: Sundar Pichai Responds to Apple and the FBI Hacking Request

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Post by jljljl »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #103
jljljl wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being pedantic: pursuit of happiness and inalienable rights are in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution. The right to regulate interstate commerce (and thus put restrictions on a lot of the fun things) is enumerated.

Being pedantic right back: the US Supreme Court refers to the Declaration as source material for the Constitution, to illuminate its intent.

There is a ruling where they refer to it as providing intent and color, but not law. And cases can only be decided based on law.

I don't think you can make a decision based solely on the "pursuit of happiness" phrase from the Declaration of Independence, but you could use it as a supporting argument for your claim.

Re: Sundar Pichai Responds to Apple and the FBI Hacking Request

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Post by rhizome »

DanBC wrote: post #39
tobylane wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once they made it, locked for that device, the FBI knows Apple can make it again, locked for another device. The tool is for any user's data, via a court order on Apple.

But Apple would still need to have the court orders for each user. Some people are suggesting that Apple would create this back-doored code, and hand it to the FBI, who would then use it to access any data they want without bothering with court orders. That doesn't seem to be what the FBI are asking for.

Once the iSpecialPhone is unlocked, can't the FBI image it and diff the hack out of the image?

Re: Sundar Pichai Responds to Apple and the FBI Hacking Request

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Post by rhizome »

icebraining wrote: post #80
peterclary wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once created, what stops the Government from obtaining a copy of the modified OS and the means to sign/encrypt it for any device? Either via some top-secret "You can't tell anyone about this or you go to jail" process, or via an agent embedded in the company?

What stops them from using those mechanisms to create it in the first place?

Knowledge and skill, evidently.

Re: Sundar Pichai Responds to Apple and the FBI Hacking Request

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Post by ascagnel_ »

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #66
ascagnel_ wrote: post #58

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It may have been changed, but the headline of the linked article (as of approx. 8:30AM EST) is literally "U.S. Marshals didn't really arrest a man for missed student loan payments". Failure to appear (the reason he was arrested) has long been accepted as a reason for a judge to issue an arrest warrant. > According to a statement from the U.S. Marshals Service, Aker repeatedly refused to show up in court after being c…

>According to a statement from the U.S. Marshals Service, Aker repeatedly refused to show up in court after being contacted several times. If some one called my home on the telephone and said "I'm a US Marshal, send money to pay for a 20 year old debt." or something to that effect, I'd probably interrupt the caller to tell them to put me on their Do Not Call list and then immediately hang up the phone before they eve…

I doubt they only contacted him by phone; instead, that phone call was likely the only response he gave.
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