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Re: Graphing when your Facebook friends are awake

#132

This is creepy, but yet very good illustration of social engineering

Social engineering, in the context of information security, refers to psychological manipulation of people into performing actions or divulging confidential information. I don't see how this is social engineering at all.

Because it's not.

Re: Graphing when your Facebook friends are awake

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have stairs in your house? (i.e. do you browse SomethingAwful, because your style of sarcastic humour is pretty similar, going by your writing & the animated frog on Swagify, and yes yes i know the rules of HN...)

I love this guy's humor. I remember when I was 17 I used to write a column for flipcode.com where I thought I was being pretty funny in appropriate amounts ( http://www.flipcode.com/archives/Theory_Practice-Issue_06_Ev... for example) but I like his jokes more! But hey, I was 17 and also it was me so... I'm biased.

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Re: Graphing when your Facebook friends are awake

#134

My favorite part - > This friend recommended nvd3.js, presumably because you’re not making real graphs in 2016 unless your graphing library is .js and requires at LEAST one other .js as a dependency. Everyone looks at you like “what, you DON’T already use .js? Jeez say goodbye to your Hacker News karma. Just apt-get install npm && npm install bower && bower install-” NO STOP IT THIS ISN’T WHAT TIM BERNERS-LEE WANTED”…

This one got me in stitches, a collection of developer insider jokes in one huge sentence:

AND ANOTHER THING when it’s midnight and your x-axis formatting function doesn’t convert UNIX times into JavaScript date objects properly because there’s no timezone information and I dunno JavaScript was written by some guy in two weeks (yeah I ain’t afraid to call it out what of it) and your binary-search based conversion of sparse timeseries data into uniformly dense timeseries data is causing so many data points to be graphed that it’s slowly crashing Chrome and you’re watching helplessly as your RAM goes up and Chrome won’t close the tab and it just doesn’t seem right that 2016, the year of the Linux Desktop has brought us this situation I mean I thought if you had enough .js libraries this stuff was meant to just scale right up so tha-

Re: Graphing when your Facebook friends are awake

#135
post #30

It would be real creepy if someone does the same thing for Whatsapp, you can even predict who's talking to each other much better than Facebook. It's a bit harder to collect data from web.whatsapp.com because it's using Websockets but let me know if someone develop such tool and publish it on Github. :)

I'm interested in why you think you could do better predictions using WhatsApp?

Re: Graphing when your Facebook friends are awake

#140
post #3

Some people might take issue with it, but the writing for this had me in stitches. I very much agree with the author on graphing libraries - there are a few good simple ones, but as soon as you want anything unusual you have to jump to these big, hard to configure monstrosities. More than once I've just given up and written my own server-side generator.

What's striking about this writing style is that (as a junior dev) it's a lot easier to understand what he's doing. By sticking to jokes and a simple style, I never felt confused or lost in lingo.

      "too much medium,
     not enough message"
The writing style works because those jokes, asides, and little mannerisms that are normally excluded from "serious" writing are part of how we think.

When we refine our writing (or speaking) to - supposedly to make it less jumbled and easier to read - we usually end up removing a lot of the little details that made up the original thought. The writing may have much better grammar and organization, but real thought isn't perfectly organized and we end up losing some of the "character" in the original idea. (this may be good or bad, depending on the situation)

Vi Hart has an amazing overview[1] of this concept, in which she discusses the very wise words of the Edmund Snow Carpenter in his[2] book "They Became What They Beheld".

    The trouble with knowing what to say and saying it clearly & fully, is that
    clear speaking is generally obsolete thinking. Clear statement is like an
    art object: it is the afterlife of the process which called it into being.
    The process itself is the significant step and, especially at the beginning,
    is often incomplete & uncertain.
The best way to write will always depend on what the goals are, but in general the further away from the original thought you get, the more writing and other creative ideas tend to degrade. Incidentally, this tendency of a thought to degrade the further it gets from it's origin is also how plans become policy: [3].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm-Jjvqu3U4

[2] probably co-written - or at least "heavily influenced" - by Marshal McLuhan

[3] http://ogun.stanford.edu/~bnayfeh/plan.html (very mild NSFW language of the form "____ happens")

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