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Re: A Message to Our Customers

#53
Link to the FBI order: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2714001/SB-Shoote...

(Edit: deleted part where I was wrong. Thanks robbiet480 for correcting me. It's 2am here and I was tired.)

Also, prediction: if Apple refuses to build a brute forcer, someone else will do it and sell it to the FBI. Just wait and watch.

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#54
post #47
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Huge props to Apple - here's hoping against hope that Google, Facebook, and Amazon get behind this. One thing I was wondering is how Apple is even able to create a backdoor. It is explained toward the end: "The government would have us remove security features and add new capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by “brute force…

> Huge props to Apple - here's hoping against hope that Google, Facebook, and Amazon get behind this. Why against hope?

It's an idiom [1].

[1] - http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hope+against+hope

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#56
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're talking nonsense. Protecting users' privacy and keeping source code closed aren't mutually exclusive.

Yeah. Loving your spouse and hiding things from them are also not mutually exclusive. Yet, you hardly find people that do both. Not to mention, this situation would never have arisen if iphone were open-sourced, since all activity would have been monitored by the community.

Just stop.

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#57
post #53

Link to the FBI order: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2714001/SB-Shoote... (Edit: deleted part where I was wrong. Thanks robbiet480 for correcting me. It's 2am here and I was tired.) Also, prediction: if Apple refuses to build a brute forcer, someone else will do it and sell it to the FBI. Just wait and watch.

>Also, prediction: if Apple refuses to build a brute forcer, someone else will do it and sell it to the FBI. Just wait and watch.

Just made a downvoted to death comment on this very same thing. This is literally a government creating a market situation.

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#58
post #32

Very impressive letter. They've expressed their position in language that a layman can understand, there's abundant evidence that they respect the intent of the law authorities, and even clearer evidence that they are drawing a line in the sand based on their principles. They will protect their customers. I wish more companies could speak so clearly and courageously.

>They will protect their customers Where is this stated so that I can claim damages if they break said promise. I'm sorry, but how can it not be seen that it a really is bad sign that Apple has made this public. They may already have built the backdoor and this is a public stunt or no matter what you do, owning a smart is not that smart.

If you'd like to claim damages, you would have to prove damages.

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#59
This is interesting:

"Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong hands, this software — which does not exist today — would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone’s physical possession."

Am I reading this right? Apple, if they chose to, can make a version of iOS that disables security features and encryption and load it onto existing phone even though the phone is locked and encrypted?

Re: A Message to Our Customers

#60
post #32

Very impressive letter. They've expressed their position in language that a layman can understand, there's abundant evidence that they respect the intent of the law authorities, and even clearer evidence that they are drawing a line in the sand based on their principles. They will protect their customers. I wish more companies could speak so clearly and courageously.

>They will protect their customers Where is this stated so that I can claim damages if they break said promise. I'm sorry, but how can it not be seen that it a really is bad sign that Apple has made this public. They may already have built the backdoor and this is a public stunt or no matter what you do, owning a smart is not that smart.

Love makes blind.
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