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> If you translate Rust to C you won't gain on speed

Mostly this is the case, but we do give better aliasing info than C in many cases right now, and that can help optimizations. It depends a lot on your use case.

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm led to believe at least some problems that would be most naturally expressed with graph structures will require reference counting when rewritten in safe Rust.

Most people use petgraph nowadays for graphs, which doesn't use RC; instead it uses indices, which are roughly the same cost as individual heap allocations. They have more computation for lookups, but the computation is usually folded into the addressing mode, and you get better cache behavior.

> Notice how you're defending criticisms I never made.

I'm not defending anything, You didn't supply clarification of your point. You were asked for clarification, and provided someone else's experience (anecdotal) counteracting claims (which weren't even anecdotal, they were unsupported assertions), and you started out as classifying that response as defensive.

> notice how you assume I don't know the difference between static analysis and compile-time safety.

I said "I also see a lot of rust community members trying to explain where people's assumptions are wrong" immediately prior to that. I thought it was obvious I was talking in the general sense. I don't know what you do and don't know, but I'm not sure why you think it's valid to be upset because someone assumes this one way or the other (which to be clear, didn't happen here) when you've shown little or no evidence yet as to what you do or don't know about it. It may be the rust community stereotyping others, but without stats as to whether the people the stereotype has been applied to have it applied correctly it's hard to know whether it's useful or harmful, regardless of how it applies to you in particular.

> Notice how you assume that I must be generally uninformed or less intelligent because complete faith in Rust's importance is a self-evident truth.

Not knowing something doesn't make someone less intelligent. If you are conversing under the assumption that everyone will assume you know at least the same amount as them about every topic that is brought up, else you have right to be offended, I'm not sure how we can continue. That's not an environment I want to have a discussion in.

> Well, now that's it's happening to me personally vs just reading it. Fuck this community. It's collectively a socially inept nightmare. I'm done with caring about Rust. I was really enjoying it. After today and Reddit, I can't take anymore of this smug bullshit.

All that's happened here is you made statements and refused to back them up while at the same time you called someone else's motives into question for asking for clarification. I think it's obvious what is going on, but I'm not in your shoes. I don't think people aren't trying to be assholes you you (at least I'm not, or not trying to be one), and while you may be upset, I hope you don't leave for good. however you've interpreted my comments, please be aware that not a single one was written with the intent to upset you, or call into question your character or intelligence in any way. I can only point towards my own experience, here and elsewhere, where my state of mind greatly influenced how I read a statement and any replies to me with regard to that conversation, and think that possibly the same thing is happening here with you. That itself may come across as a smug asshole-ish thing to say depending on how you interpret it, or even my assumption that my observations apply to you. All I can do is state that my desire to be helpful after your prior statement is sincere.

Well, I was kind of right and you as well.

It was the Lisa that was written in Pascal.

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story...

Well, the control flow seems complicated at least.

Me too.

Yes, C++ is as unsafe as C, given its copy-paste compatibility, but at least it provides the tools to program safely (if one chooses to) and the C++ community cares much more about safety than the C one.