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Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

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Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

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when did america become israels bitch? our troops are out there getting blown up and these israeli jews and sitting at home making their kids tech billionaires? all these young kids being brainwashed into thinking a communist jew like sanders is good for the country when he has his hidden agenda with israel. why is the us helping the israelis when the jews in america are determining the course of the US life? corrupting american culture with their bullshit ass rap music made by drake? running every media outlet and late night talk show hosts to afraid to say anything about jews? Jews will take their snake hands and bite you but will cry out in pain themselves. edit no offense to paul graham

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the crazy thing is the other country doesn't even have to behave well or keep up its end of the bargain to maintain top-level status.

Alliances are about geopolitics as much as how much we like countries' behaviour. Israel is an invaluable intelligence partner in the War on Terror and a natural ally against Iran. They're also the closest thing to a liberal democracy in the Middle East. As long as the US continues to gain more from its alliance with Israel than it loses, the alliance will endure. No matter how much individual leaders may loathe each…

'War on Terror' - I like how you have capitalised this, I hope you don't actually believe it though?

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

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post #8

what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this. It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally. Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapon…

And the crazy thing is the other country doesn't even have to behave well or keep up its end of the bargain to maintain top-level status.

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Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

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> In this way, after the strongest version of the virus was implanted in order to increase the force of the damage to the centrifuges at Natanz, the virus .... began to "jump from computer to computer"

I don't see how one follows from the other. One talks about the virus causing additional damage to centrifuges rather than minor damage.

The other is about increased infectiousness.

They are two different things and they are just tied together as if there is some relationship between them.

This article is almost completely devoid of any evidence, or even a plausible logical explanation/motivation.

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

#27
post #14

Hate to turn this into a political thread when there is so much info about software but.... The sheer arrogance with with Israel operates is just something else. They seem to to believe that no action they take will ever be questioned or lead to any blowback. The almost total control of US Foreign policy that they have now makes me think that the Iran deal being operationalized was nothing sort of a coup for Pres. Ob…

The sheer arrogance with with $country operates is just something else.

Not all countries would be included there. The US? Russia? North Korea? Sure. Finland? Iceland? Not so much.

There is something to be said about a country's foreign policy and how 'arrogant' it is. A country can have a solid foreign policy (read: not be a pushover) and still not act like a giant bully.

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

#28

> a deadly virus that penetrated computers > a “vaccine” for their computers > the secret formula for writing the code for the virus software > these entry and exit points served as portals to implant the virus. > the most deadly version of the virus I don't know if this is a result of the journalist, or the film that is the source material, but that's way too many bad biological parallels to describe a computer viru…

I prefer people write in a vocabulary that's native to me as well, but I don't see any of these as being inaccurate analogies.

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alliances are about geopolitics as much as how much we like countries' behaviour. Israel is an invaluable intelligence partner in the War on Terror and a natural ally against Iran. They're also the closest thing to a liberal democracy in the Middle East. As long as the US continues to gain more from its alliance with Israel than it loses, the alliance will endure. No matter how much individual leaders may loathe each…

'War on Terror' - I like how you have capitalised this, I hope you don't actually believe it though?

It's a proper noun.

Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

#30
post #3

>Pictures of then-Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to the Natanz facility helped the experts obtain needed intelligence on the computers. The computers, their configuration and their rear connections can be seen clearly in the pictures. Eventually, these entry and exit points served as portals to implant the virus. I doubt that this alone was all they needed. Probably once they had identified the vendors…

Regardless, it's a pretty industrious tactic, albeit obvious, still impressive - esp considering what they produced building on that info the gleaned.
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