Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US

Post by Jerry2 » Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:32 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #2

Stuxnet was such an amazing event. The speculation at first, the quasi confirmation a little later based on certain items in the code. The dissection of it and the tech talks by Microsoft and others on its design and build... And then that it had a successor - and now it comes out that Israel and US squabbling over what team did what which allowed it to be exposed. It is such an amazing cornerstone in the cyberpunk r…

Post by ryanlol » Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:35 PM UTC

suprgeek wrote: post #13

Hate to turn this into a political thread when there is so much info about software but.... The sheer arrogance with with Israel operates is just something else. They seem to to believe that no action they take will ever be questioned or lead to any blowback. The almost total control of US Foreign policy that they have now makes me think that the Iran deal being operationalized was nothing sort of a coup for Pres. Ob…

Post by samstave » Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:36 PM UTC

Jerry2 wrote: post #12

samstave wrote: post #2

Stuxnet was such an amazing event. The speculation at first, the quasi confirmation a little later based on certain items in the code. The dissection of it and the tech talks by Microsoft and others on its design and build... And then that it had a successor - and now it comes out that Israel and US squabbling over what team did what which allowed it to be exposed. It is such an amazing cornerstone in the cyberpunk r…

> If you haven't watched the tech talks on stuxnet and duqu, please do - super interesting. If you or someone else has some recommendations on which ones are worth watching, please do let us know.

Post by redthrowaway » Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:40 PM UTC

jonah wrote: post #8

jorgecurio wrote: post #6

what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this. It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally. Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapon…

And the crazy thing is the other country doesn't even have to behave well or keep up its end of the bargain to maintain top-level status.

Post by redthrowaway » Tue, Feb 16, 2016, 7:42 PM UTC

andybak wrote: post #11

x5n1 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America has interests and not friends. Israelis understand this. Similarly Israel has interests and not friends. They are interested in protecting their own interests. Even if it costs Americans for them to do so. So you can basically say Israelis learned how to play these games from Americans.

> So you can basically say Israelis learned how to play these games from Americans. I think you can probably trace such realpolitik and statecraft back to Mesopotamia and beyond.