Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
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Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#2Stuxnet was such an amazing event. The speculation at first, the quasi confirmation a little later based on certain items in the code. The dissection of it and the tech talks by Microsoft and others on its design and build... And then that it had a successor - and now it comes out that Israel and US squabbling over what team did what which allowed it to be exposed.
It is such an amazing cornerstone in the cyberpunk reality of where the world is heading.
If you haven't watched the tech talks on stuxnet and duqu, please do - super interesting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rOwMW6agpTI
https://www.ted.com/talks/ralph_langner_cracking_stuxnet_a_2...
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#3>Pictures of then-Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to the Natanz facility helped the experts obtain needed intelligence on the computers. The computers, their configuration and their rear connections can be seen clearly in the pictures. Eventually, these entry and exit points served as portals to implant the virus.
I doubt that this alone was all they needed. Probably once they had identified the vendors of the equipment, they retrieved the purchase orders from those vendors, either with or without the knowledge of said vendors.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#4> a deadly virus that penetrated computers
> a “vaccine” for their computers
> the secret formula for writing the code for the virus software
> these entry and exit points served as portals to implant the virus.
> the most deadly version of the virus
I don't know if this is a result of the journalist, or the film that is the source material, but that's way too many bad biological parallels to describe a computer virus.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#5>Pictures of then-Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to the Natanz facility helped the experts obtain needed intelligence on the computers. The computers, their configuration and their rear connections can be seen clearly in the pictures. Eventually, these entry and exit points served as portals to implant the virus. I doubt that this alone was all they needed. Probably once they had identified the vendors…
Which is why it says they "helped," implying there were other factors.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#6what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this.
It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally.
Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapons no other allies are getting. Discounted oil from Saudi too.
Gold - Gets you access to aids and credit line with the IMF. You get the top grade weapons that other allies wish they were getting haha.
Silver - Gets you access to some aids and political credit for your election periods in your country. Free defense of your country, we'll even pay half the cost of our stay.
Bronze - Gets honorable mention in speeches and aids but don't count on our diplomatic support. You are largely left on your own to defend your country. We'll sell you some of our refurbished weapons and overstocked weaponry at a discount or if you buy our bonds.
edit: why the downvotes? seems like any comment that seems to critcize US-Israel relationship on here are automatically downvoted to oblivion. As a Canadian, all of this is very confusing. A) Why in the fuck would the most powerful country succumb to a particular smaller country but nobody else B) Why in the fuck nobody is allowed to question the arrangement? C) Why are people who think Jesus will return in Israel (mental illness?) are allowed to make decisions on behalf of people who don't agree with it?
And to people who say both countries are acting in a way that maximizes their national interests, yet certain actions by certain country are seemingly kosher (no pun intended) while if another country in the similar position did the same actions, there would be severe punitive and a concerted diplomatic backlash and media smearing. All but one particular country seems to get a free golden pass on literally all aspects that influence United State's national interests.
The US gets less than what Israel gets out of the relationship. What was US's big reward for helping Israel? It incited attack from other anti-Israeli terrorists and continue to place the national security at risk just to further some geopolitical goals in some remote place that has nothing to do with the average American.
The emperor wears no clothes, and as a Canadian I just pointed out what I'm seeing. I have no stake in this argument or have mistrust or hatred for Israeli people and American peoples, but it's not hard to see the level of mistrust each countries populace has towards their own government's policy.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#7Semantec... Symantec.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#8what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this. It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally. Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapon…
And the crazy thing is the other country doesn't even have to behave well or keep up its end of the bargain to maintain top-level status.
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#9when did america become israels bitch? our troops are out there getting blown up and these israeli jews and sitting at home making their kids tech billionaires? all these young kids being brainwashed into thinking a communist jew like sanders is good for the country when he has his hidden agenda with israel. why is the us helping the israelis when the jews in america are determining the course of the US life? corrupting american culture with their bullshit ass rap music made by drake? running every media outlet and late night talk show hosts to afraid to say anything about jews? Jews will take their snake hands and bite you but will cry out in pain themselves.
edit no offense to paul graham
Re: Unilateral Israeli changes to Stuxnet caused its exposure, angering US
#10what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this. It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally. Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapon…
America has interests and not friends. Israelis understand this. Similarly Israel has interests and not friends. They are interested in protecting their own interests. Even if it costs Americans for them to do so. So you can basically say Israelis learned how to play these games from Americans.