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Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by jurip »

DenisM wrote: post #426
derefr wrote: post #395

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I've always wondered whether you could just have a community that banned outrage. Literally: express outrage, get banned. "Signal boost" someone else's outrage, get banned. It's not welcome within the community. Would this even make sense? Or would this shove so hard against human nature that people would never be able to abide it? (Of course, sometimes you'd be outraged at the community—or its management—and that'd…

If you ban sarcasm in addition to outrage I'll sign up to whatever thingamajig you're making there.

There's a heavily moderated and busy Facebook group focused on urbanism in Helsinki, "Lisää kaupunkia Helsinkiin". Irony and sarcasm are prohibited; they don't get you banned, at least not right away, but you do get called out for them. It really helps keep the discourse focused.

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by BIair »

bricemo wrote: post #111

There have been numerous studies showing that outrage is one of the most viral emotions. For whatever reason, seeing something that makes you upset has a very high correlation with people sharing/liking/retweeting. I think this unfortunate fact is what is being born out in social media. Smithsonian had a good short article on it: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-emotion-go... Research shows that amaz…

Doesn't this just correlate with 10 people will tell others when unhappy, while they'll tell 1 if happy?

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by andrewbinstock »

While I agree that much of social media is as he describes, I don't have this problem on Twitter. I follow just over 100 people whose thoughts interest or entertain me. I shut off the screamers, the haters, the high-emotion types. With the result that my experience of Twitter is pleasant. Is there some reason OP couldn't do the same?

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by DenisM »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #456
DenisM wrote: post #426

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If you ban sarcasm in addition to outrage I'll sign up to whatever thingamajig you're making there.

Can't tell if you're being serious or not. Would you actually enjoy that kind of network? Sarcasm is really hard to identify, and would be really hard to ban.

Yes, absolutely. Sarcasm poisons the well of conversation like nothing else. When people disagree and provide an argument you can have a conversation about substance. When people disagree and provide no argument or a personal attack, it's easy to dismiss and move on from there. Sarcasm leaves you hanging precisely because it's hard to identify - is the person serious so you should continue to put effort, or is he not serious and you should quit this discussion?

As to practical concerns - it's not the goal to catch every single instance of sarcasm, but rather to identify people who like to use it. People of this kind will be doing it regularly, and with various degree of subtlety, as such they will be caught in the act sooner or later.

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Post by EvanPlaice »

randomacct44 wrote: post #422
derefr wrote: post #395

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I've always wondered whether you could just have a community that banned outrage. Literally: express outrage, get banned. "Signal boost" someone else's outrage, get banned. It's not welcome within the community. Would this even make sense? Or would this shove so hard against human nature that people would never be able to abide it? (Of course, sometimes you'd be outraged at the community—or its management—and that'd…

I've been playing Clash Royale on iPad (it's a multiplayer battle game set in the Clash of Clans universe that essentially drops the base building element and concentrates on the strategic combat). Generally, competitive multiplayer games can be pretty harsh (devolving into toxic) communities. Clash Royale addresses this problem in an interesting way. You're allowed to communicate with your opponent, but only from a…

Shazbot!

This just gave me a flash back to back when I used to play Starseige Tribes.

The chat system included quick key commands for a ton of useful voice callouts.

The quick keys and audio sampling made them a lot more fun to use and harder to miss than manually typed messages. As a result, it was much less common to see typed messages popup during regular gameplay.

Looks like they still use the chat system in the latest iteration of the series. http://www.tribesascendwiki.com/Voice_Game_System

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by grahamburger »

meric wrote: post #489
smcnally wrote: post #486

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Interesting: In World Series of Poker, "Thanks!" is one of the permitted auto-texts. I find it annoying when people say "Thanks!" immediately after winning a hand / before anyone compliments them on their play or win. Sounds like Hearthstone's "Hello" deathblows. That says something about language, how the rules affect what's considered "offensive," and how some will work within the rules to create new offenses.

I think "offence" is required to build human relationships. I find myself say something in a joking manner to my best friend that would be offensive to anyone else. In a way I think it's a test - you test if the relationship is strong enough to withstand the offence, and if the friend gives the appropriate response to show you he in fact did not get offended, the relationship is affirmed and becomes stronger. Here's…

Ah, now this is interesting. I can see that I often fail friendship tests such as yours. I don't actually tend to take things seriously, but I'm particularly bad at showing that I'm not taking something seriously. Or so I've been told, though I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing wrong. Fortunately I have an amazing wife and a few good friends, so making new ones isn't particularly important to me. Which I guess is likely part of the problem. Anyway - I hope your parents Valentine's day was unique and experimental.

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by riffraff »

smcnally wrote: post #486
Shad0w59 wrote: post #435

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This happens in Blizzard's Hearthstone as well. People enjoy saying "Hello" just as they deliver the finishing blow.

Interesting: In World Series of Poker, "Thanks!" is one of the permitted auto-texts. I find it annoying when people say "Thanks!" immediately after winning a hand / before anyone compliments them on their play or win. Sounds like Hearthstone's "Hello" deathblows. That says something about language, how the rules affect what's considered "offensive," and how some will work within the rules to create new offenses.

hearthstone also allows "Thanks", and it is also used when you make a mistake (although there is also a "mistake" text).

The interesting thing is that you could actually say "thanks" (or "well played" or "hello") in a neutral way, but if you are on the losing side you are very likely to interpret them as mocking any way, which personally increases my annoyance at losing wildly. I desperately crave for a "f* you" emote at times.

But blizzard has been smart: you can preventively mute your opponent, and just get rid of the thing altogether.

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by kagamine »

bdreadz wrote: post #127
jgrahamc wrote: post #91

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If you think about it, before AIM and online chat (way before texting), people hardly ever faked their emotions so much In the late 1980s terms like LOL were used on BBSes and on Usenet. Perhaps you just aren't old enough to remember that? :-)

Thank you. On BBSes and even IRC /me laughs, /me Before LOL I'd use hahaha or hehehe all the time as well in IRC, Chat Rooms, BBSes, etc.

You can now try the Japanese lol: www.

It's the literal sound of a chuckle/giggle/light laughter. So when you say it aloud, you need only laugh naturally.

To see it in action go to http://nicovideo.jp and pick pretty much any video. Start watching with comments on, they scroll over the video, and marvel at the trails of www(wwwwwwwwwww).

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