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Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by justifier »

danharaj wrote: post #101
justifier wrote: post #93

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i consider emojis as the tonal element missing from text think of it as visual intonation (o) (o) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intonation_(linguistics)

I like your interpretation which ascribes intelligence and meaning to other peoples' behavior instead of the grandparent which seems to imply that the kids these days are just stupid and don't have any interesting thoughts to convey. You can't find the meaning in other peoples' behavior if you just assume it's meaningless from the get-go.

the history of emoji coming from japanese culture is pertinent..

i am unable to speak for middle eastern or cyrillic languages due to a shameful unfamiliarity, but as for western and a majority eastern languages, the core of the japanese language is substantially, yet casually, more capable

japanese is comprised of three alphabets:

    kanji : an enormous, complex, and ancient chinese character set
    katakana and hiragana: syllabic runes that bridge japanese phonemes to its own complex characters or even other languages
the japanese even created a phoneme set using latin characters called romaji

the japanese have a japanese numeral system but also use arabic numerals

what's more is these elements of the language can all appear on the same poster one walks by while walking down the street

and yet still more, those elements can all be meant to be read in different directions

japanese texts are written horizontally and vertically

japansese books can be printed and read either page flipped right to left, or similarly to the west, left to right

one may argue a dislike for or refuse the use of emojis but it could be said that one of the most literate cultures in the world looked at their tools of communication and felt them wanting

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by gd1 »

randomacct44 wrote: post #422
derefr wrote: post #395

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I've always wondered whether you could just have a community that banned outrage. Literally: express outrage, get banned. "Signal boost" someone else's outrage, get banned. It's not welcome within the community. Would this even make sense? Or would this shove so hard against human nature that people would never be able to abide it? (Of course, sometimes you'd be outraged at the community—or its management—and that'd…

I've been playing Clash Royale on iPad (it's a multiplayer battle game set in the Clash of Clans universe that essentially drops the base building element and concentrates on the strategic combat). Generally, competitive multiplayer games can be pretty harsh (devolving into toxic) communities. Clash Royale addresses this problem in an interesting way. You're allowed to communicate with your opponent, but only from a…

Can you at least tell your opponent that they have played double plus ungood?

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by Tiksi »

hodgesrm wrote: post #314
sterl wrote: post #172

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Half of all people are below 'median' intelligence :P

Technically shouldn't you say "at least half of all people are at or below median"? (Sorry, I just couldn't resist. It seemed apropos to the overall conversion. :)

>"at least half of all people are at or below median"

Take the median of

  1 2 5 5 5 5 8 9 11 23 58 46 48 37 28 67 39
Much less than half of the numbers are at or below the the median of 5.

(also median would be a bad way to get an average for this set.)

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by dang »

mattmanser wrote: post #367
daniel-cussen wrote: post #74

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Either Haskell or Erlang. I'm 90% sure it was Erlang.

It was Erlang! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1919897

pg sparked the original one. Be sure to read the top comment as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145

Edit: that was March 11, 2009. Someone should see if the Internet archive took a snapshot of the all-Erlang front page.

Edit 2: Nope, it fell between snapshots. I wonder if we could reconstruct it from the logs. But here's HN from the day before: https://web.archive.org/web/20090310152751/http://news.ycomb....

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Post by potatolicious »

iBzOtaku wrote: post #461
potatolicious wrote: post #401

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I think casting my view as "information is too readily available" is a vast oversimplification. Information being readily available isn't the issue, the issue is the ease in responding too it - more specifically the ease in responding thoughtlessly and flippantly, and the empathy gap that entails. IMO the empathy gap is the problem we face socially as we move into the Internet age, and solving must in some part invol…

Thank you for your lengthy reply. I'm a CS student and usually attend meetups and workshops, mostly related to startups and entrepreneurship. Nearly everyone there introduces themselves with their names and twitter handles. I have heard this "advice" again and again that if you want to make connections, get active on twitter. How true is it? Is twitter really the place to get in touch with people more so than Faceboo…

Yeah, this is really Twitter's saving grace, and also why as much as it is a raging dumpster fire, it is still valuable.

Facebook curbs abuse by basically making sure no one can bug you unless you opt-in to it (friending them), and limiting how viral your posts can go. The flip side of this is that this is a really poor way to talk to people you don't already know.

Twitter is the complete opposite - complete strangers can contact you, read your writings, and do whatever. This is wonderful for networking, but obviously has pretty tremendously large downsides. Because of this there are actual "communities" on Twitter in a way that basically doesn't exist on Facebook, because associating with new people is just so easy.

The existential-scale problem facing Twitter now is that abuse has gotten so out of hand, and that the power-users are far more susceptible to abuse than everyone else due to their visibility. More than that, shutting off abuse in the ways we know how basically means converting to Facebook's social model, which is pretty much the anti-Twitter.

Maybe there are ways to curb abuse while helping Twitter stay Twitter? This is the big outstanding question, clearly I'm pessimistic about it - the two big reasons why Twitter succeeds (vast reach and free interjection) is precisely why it's also a shithole.

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by flashman »

randomacct44 wrote: post #422
derefr wrote: post #395

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I've always wondered whether you could just have a community that banned outrage. Literally: express outrage, get banned. "Signal boost" someone else's outrage, get banned. It's not welcome within the community. Would this even make sense? Or would this shove so hard against human nature that people would never be able to abide it? (Of course, sometimes you'd be outraged at the community—or its management—and that'd…

I've been playing Clash Royale on iPad (it's a multiplayer battle game set in the Clash of Clans universe that essentially drops the base building element and concentrates on the strategic combat). Generally, competitive multiplayer games can be pretty harsh (devolving into toxic) communities. Clash Royale addresses this problem in an interesting way. You're allowed to communicate with your opponent, but only from a…

In Rocket League it's common to emote "What a save!" after scoring a goal past the defenders, or if the keeper was particularly inept.

Re: Too many people have peed in the pool

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Post by monksy »

hudibras wrote: post #463
monksy wrote: post #460

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"Only one of the great cinematic costume designers would come to the awards dressed like a bag lady. So lets break that down. The subject is a "cinematic costume designer" According to Sir Fry, she is a great one at that. Then we have the other part of the statement: "She came to the awards dressed as a bag lady." This part of the statement is a bit odd/stands out when compared to a group of rather posh individuals.…

Thank you for breaking it down like that, but nobody's saying it wasn't a joke. The point is that it was an offensive joke.

To call it an offensive joke seems like you're perverting what was actually said and would require striping out the context.

Mr. Fry did not say: "Shes a bag lady, too poor to receive this award. Just take a look at her clothes"

That could be considered a joke at the expectation of being posh, at a highly honor awards ceremony, and would be considered offensive to the subject and maybe the audience.

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