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Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by teddyh »

whorleater wrote: post #38
misterrobot wrote: post #34

The worst part about Palantir is their ability to masquerade as this hip startup, as though working for them is as innocent as working for Imgur or Twitter or whatever. They recruit the hell out of MIT students, and it sucks seeing my friends interview for this incredibly shitty company that has openly said it won't go public since that would make running their business "very difficult" (hm, because you're doing repr…

Interning for Palantir is a pretty big resume boost for college students, and they have one of the highest paying internships in the valley. There's some serious benefits to going to Palantir.

Maybe they are useful for students to signal their lack of ethics to employers? “Look, they once worked at Palantir, so they’ll have no problems doing whatever shady stuff we tell them to!”

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by whorleater »

misterrobot wrote: post #41
whorleater wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interning for Palantir is a pretty big resume boost for college students, and they have one of the highest paying internships in the valley. There's some serious benefits to going to Palantir.

If you have the ability to intern at Palantir you have the ability to intern at any number of more responsible companies. Palantir has a bigger booth at the career fair, but I'd bet working at Apple or Uber is just as much of a resume boost at much less of a societal cost. (source: am a college student)

Interning at Apple or Uber has much more stiff competition though. The barrier to entry for Palantir is remarkably low considering their pay, it's not surprising that college students apply for Palantir. (Source: am college senior)

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by kftaylor »

drglitch wrote: post #13

"Why? As a team, we’re very proud of the product we built, now used by over 125k developers, data scientists and businesses" ... from FAQ: "service will shut down Feb 29, 2016" In fact, they are so proud, they're giving all but ~2 weeks notice to said 125K developers, data scientists, and businesses to migrate off the platform? That is an abysmally small amount of time and if I was a paying customer, i'd be furious.…

They never even tried to charge me money. I would have paid ... happily

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by b34r »

misterrobot wrote: post #34

The worst part about Palantir is their ability to masquerade as this hip startup, as though working for them is as innocent as working for Imgur or Twitter or whatever. They recruit the hell out of MIT students, and it sucks seeing my friends interview for this incredibly shitty company that has openly said it won't go public since that would make running their business "very difficult" (hm, because you're doing repr…

Some business owners just don't want shareholders inserting their opinion where it isn't wanted. If they don't need the funding, there's no reason to go public.

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by nefitty »

tsergiu wrote: post #55

Full disclosure: I'm one of the co-founders of ParseHub. For folks looking for an alternative, check out http://www.parsehub.com ParseHub is especially good at dealing with dynamic websites and multidimensional data (arbitrary relationships instead of just rows and columns). Our team would be happy to help you migrate from Kimono. We're bootstrapped and profitable, so we don't have pressure to sell when an offer come…

Awesome. Thanks for sharing your service. My current project has been faltering because of my ignorance of these types of tools. Yours looks like it's going to make a huge difference for me!

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by randycupertino »

jonnybgood wrote: post #54
randycupertino wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have one of the worst work/balances in the valley, fratty/kool aid culture, claim to be "making a difference" but really what they actually work on would be a major downside for most normal people. For example, they make targeting software and are very likely responsible for assassinations by the US and when we disappear people. They're also working on big brother tech if that's your thing.

What is targeting software? How are they responsible for assassinations and disappearing people? What is this big brother tech?

First of all:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#Contro...

Also:

> When intruders from the hacker group Anonymous gained access to thousands of emails stored on the servers of the security firm HB Gary Federal, the emails revealed that Palantir had worked with HB Gary Federal to develop proposals for attacking WikiLeaks’ infrastructure, blackmailing its supporters and identifying donors.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/02/09/did-sec...

There was also the sex scandal with their founder and a Stanford student: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/the-stanford-unde...

This thread on HN also has some discussion about their government and military contracts:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11036156

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by linkregister »

derefr wrote: post #49
misterrobot wrote: post #34

The worst part about Palantir is their ability to masquerade as this hip startup, as though working for them is as innocent as working for Imgur or Twitter or whatever. They recruit the hell out of MIT students, and it sucks seeing my friends interview for this incredibly shitty company that has openly said it won't go public since that would make running their business "very difficult" (hm, because you're doing repr…

> it won't go public since that would make running their business "very difficult" (hm, because you're doing reprehensible work perhaps?) Well, more generally, anyone who has a nonstandard set of ethical beliefs, and is basing their company around that set of beliefs, can't really go public without their belief-set being thrown under the bus of their shareholders' belief-set. For example, I've often considered starti…

You could go the Google and Facebook route of having voting-class and non-voting class shares. Sergey and Larry, and Zuck still retain control of their companies.

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by joering2 »

whorleater wrote: post #38
misterrobot wrote: post #34

The worst part about Palantir is their ability to masquerade as this hip startup, as though working for them is as innocent as working for Imgur or Twitter or whatever. They recruit the hell out of MIT students, and it sucks seeing my friends interview for this incredibly shitty company that has openly said it won't go public since that would make running their business "very difficult" (hm, because you're doing repr…

Interning for Palantir is a pretty big resume boost for college students, and they have one of the highest paying internships in the valley. There's some serious benefits to going to Palantir.

Sorry I can't stop myself:

Interning as a prison ward in Auschwitz is a pretty big resume boost for anyone who served in a prison system, and Nazis have one of the highest paying internships abroad. There's some serious benefits of becoming a prison ward in Auschwitz.

That's how I see this parasite company.

Re: Palantir acquires Kimono

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Post by nreece »

Disappointing to see just 2 weeks notice for their existing users.

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