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Ask HN: When should you quit?

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Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#21
I feel the same, but I am trying to dedicate my hard-earned skills and experience to healthcare so that I can focus my week days on doing something which will someday help saving lives. Otherwise, I think most Tech is a gamble with VC's money (they do have a lot) and at the end we will end up corrupting human generations with information/consumption overload and decent skills to talk to people and enjoy life as it comes. At some point when I was working for a advertising startup, I burnt myself out and it was a good first step at realizing how not to work and inculcated lot of good habits (like frequent breaks, making sure I don't work beyond a certain time everyday, planning for the day {velocity > speed} etc) which re-energized me. And at the end I know, health will win over wealth so it's important I exercise and enjoy each day and worry less about work when I am not working.

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#22
If isolation is an issue, perhaps there is a co-working space or public space at which you can work. If you don't want to work in public, maybe you just need to go to some meetups, professional organization, makerspace, or some other type of group where people come to socialize. You may want to try a mix of tech and non-tech type groups. I found when I was running my own business in my early 20s that a local user group provided a good way to meet new customers and interact with people. I also tried things like board game meetups, "young professional" groups, etc. even if I didn't like the people or never went back, I found it a good to break up my routine. I would also make sure to spend time outside, at the public library, just leave the apartment for lunch, etc.

I have often thought about leaving tech or going to a different area within tech, I can empathize that its scary to think you are a specialized cog that can't really do anything else. It may be helpful to reach out to a career professional for some advice - for example if you went to a college/university, they usually provide career counseling for alumni, local libraries also often have resources or people who may help. If you are thinking of staying in your own business, you may want to try your local Small Business Association chapter (or equivalent if you are outside of the US).

Remember, your greatest asset is often not what you know, but that you know how to think and make critical decisions. I am sure you have learned a new programming language or figured out how to deal with a bad customer. Those are skills which can be generalized and applied in other areas. It may be hard or scary to take the step on how to apply these skills in a different area, but you may be able to think of low risk ways of trying it out. Maybe there is some type of freelancing gig outside your realm or even outside of tech you could try. Some of the networking ideas about may help you bump into someone who needs your skills - even if its not paid work, they may buy you a coffee just to pick you mind.

I would also second some of the other comments on getting a mindless or corporate job for a while, taking a vacation, tech detox, etc.

In sum, the first step is to break out of your routine and try something. You may have heard of paralysis by analysis... sometime you have to just take that first step and not worry about having the perfect optimal, zero risk plan in place.

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#23
> "I feel so old to be trying something completely new."

Dude. You're 30. I'm not going to post the cliche list of people who've done amazing, impactful things after age 30, but please understand that that list easily runs to the hundreds of millions. You have a lot of time to do whatever you want. Take a break. If you still want to get out of tech, then jump into another field. If not, just take a normal tech job and be one of us drones for a bit. It won't kill you, and it might reenergize your desire to make your own thing.

You're been working on your own thing for six years, which means you started it before you had even reached the age where you could rent a car. You have never experienced a normal life. Give it a shot. It's not as terrible as it's sometimes made out to be. I'm not making a billion dollars, but I get paid well and I go home to a nice place; I live with a beautiful girlfriend and I exercise at a nice gym and take fun vacations and eat at nice restaurants and drink fancy scotches. It's not jetting to Malta on the weekends, but it's better than what the vast majority of people on this earth who are around our age can hope for.

And doing that doesn't mean you've given up and sold out or whatever. You can work on side projects when they make you happy. The cult of the entrepreneur hasn't done right by you. Try another path, and see if it works better. It might fit you better, or it might reenergize you to get back into the startup space, or it might make you realize you need to live in a hippie commune. (If that's the case, I know a place.)

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#24
I'm 53 and have been working as a programmer since I was 17. I still love what I do but I've been where you are at several times. I'll tell you something you probably already know - it's impossible to make a good decision where you are at right now. For what it's worth I'd suggest taking a break and then deciding what to do once you have some distance and have shaken some of this off.

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#26
post #19

I am 28 and feel exactly like you: one difference, I have never gone on my own, I have always been an employee at a huge corporation. Right now, I look up to you a lot, you had the balls to go on your own. I don't have a solution to this, I can only let you know that you are not alone and I relate 100%. I would get a 9to5 job, save some money, and quit and travel for a while, find your passion. This is what I hope to…

This is good advice - I did this when I turned 30 - spent my 30th on a beach in Chile having the time of my life - then spent the next 7 months backpacking around south america - and it was the best time of my life. After I came back I worked for a few months to save some $ then moved to the other side of the world - that gave me enough interesting stuff to keep doing something I wasnt so interested in anymore - but I found unusual work opportunities that never would have happened if id stayed in the same place

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#27
If you're going to make an irrational decision, do it out of love, not hate.

When was the last time you fell in love? Maybe it was a girlfriend, perhaps it was a language? Perhaps it was with an apple product?

I realize your questioning why I'm asking this. But here's the thing. If you're going to make an irrational decision, do it out of love, not out of hate.

My love is photography, I fell in love with it while taking a camera to a juggling convention, and shooting a friend on stage. Nowadays, I can take a camera in my hand, and what ever is bothering me starts to disappear when the camera clicks. The how or why doesn't matter to me -- what matters is that I feel better after.

So, what makes you feel better?

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#28
Don't worry man, lots of us (me too! I'm 33!) started companies while young. Shutting them down is liberating, not every effort comes to monumental financial success. Some say that the true measure of a person is how they respond to challenges. Knowing that there is no set direction in life, it's really healthy to embrace moments of reconsideration. Don't worry about deviating from some social obligation of fervently chasing dollars. Changing physical and social environments can be very powerful. If you have some money in the bank then I would highly recommend going to travel on the cheap to some different countries. Learn about where you go, explore. Try to limit the time while you are away spent with people from your own culture. It will help you relax, and stimulate you in new directions. You might even try something new that pops up on the way, and find new directions you might like to consider: Diving. Studying. Teaching. Writing. Art. Picking up a new language. Running a hospitality business. Maybe even someone who gives you a shared direction in life?

Personally I shut my first company in 2009 after getting some recognition from VCs and support from angels, found success working for others for awhile, did a few years of remote, and now - some 7 years later - I'm starting businesses for myself again. It took that long to re-energise. We don't even have our website complete yet, but yesterday just signed our first client for enough money to buy a nice shiny new mountain bike. I plan to let it grow slowly and organically, not stress and to ride that mountain bike at least as much time as I spent in the office coding. Wiser these days.

Re: Ask HN: When should you quit?

#29

I worked too hard on developing software and got stressed out and developed a mental illness and became disabled. I went back to college to take a business management degree and earned one. Thinking that I might do better as a manager. But since I have no experience as a manager, no luck in getting a job. It is very hard to work on your own, and earn money. You need a team of people, you need investors, you need soci…

Being 47 (I'm older!) gives you a perspective that younger folks simply don't have. How many SV startups are targeting people a few decades beyond their teens?
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