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Ask HN: Is Python dying?
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Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#102http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=python Showing 1-10 of 169,970 Python jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=ruby Showing 1-10 of 128,305 Ruby jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=java Showing 1-10 of 190,126 Java jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=golang Showing 1-10 of 219 Golang jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=julia Showing 1-10 of 206 Julia jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=%22pyth…
http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=perl Showing 1-10 of 220,528 Perl jobs
And you know, Perl is dead.
Basically, Python gave a choice to a lot of people to either invest time into 3.x without any important improvements or to keep using 2.7 and invest time playing with other languages. Which in turn accelerated Python's decline and raised questions about it dying, promoting the idea even more. But there is no need to worry, it's not a bad thing.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be aware that PyPI isn't a great way to get accurate statistics. You can't just ignore a bunch of statistics because they aren't convenient to you; that's not how maths works. Statistical sampling is based on the premise that your sample is randomized from the total population; I would argue that the stats from pypi represent a reasonable random sample of python users around the world. Certainly, you can argue otherw…
GP has argued otherwise. PyPI sampling is not random. It is heavily influenced by automatic downloads and such and completely ignores that most simple 2.x libs / non-3.3-tagged libs will work just fine on python 3. In other words, it is neither random nor representative of python 3 usage, failing the premise you yourself mentioned. There's no easy way to determine Python 3 usage overall. Your best bet is to go around…
...it is neither random nor representative of python 3 usage, failing the premise you yourself mentioned.
Can you actually justify these assertions?
Or are you just speculating because you don't like the results?
Your best bet is to go around polling companies of all sizes as well as indie devs.
What you will find is that:
Come on. Now I can't take you seriously at all.
You know what they're going to say already, without even asking?
You're just speculating.
Stats > guesses.
Even if the pypi stats aren't completely reflective of the entire ecosystem, I'm going to argue that they give a pretty decent impression of it, regardless of the mild bias that you've listed above but can't quantify.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#104http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=python Showing 1-10 of 169,970 Python jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=ruby Showing 1-10 of 128,305 Ruby jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=java Showing 1-10 of 190,126 Java jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=golang Showing 1-10 of 219 Golang jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=julia Showing 1-10 of 206 Julia jobs http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=%22pyth…
http://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=perl Showing 1-10 of 220,528 Perl jobs And you know, Perl is dead. Basically, Python gave a choice to a lot of people to either invest time into 3.x without any important improvements or to keep using 2.7 and invest time playing with other languages. Which in turn accelerated Python's decline and raised questions about it dying, promoting the idea even more. But there is no need to…
Your snark was somewhat incoherent. Can you be more clear? guessing from the cpan in your name you're a Perl person?
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#105Python is dying in much the same way that C is dying, and by that I mean it's not dying at all. I'm no expert on Go or JS but Julia is not even close to being a serious competitor to Python for data science right now. Besides, Julia has a role more similar to R than Python.
I think C and even C++ are basically dead from a job market perspective but seem alive and doing ok in the opensource community. The need for paid C development pales in comparison to the job market for python. The industry, at least outside HN, for "backend" type work has settled on java/.net languages. They are just good enough for 95% of use cases and easy enough to hire for.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#106Python was never a front end language, and it was never a systems/backend language, at least not a good one. Its main strength is that "batteries are included" and you can get something usable going really quickly. None of these purported challengers has that strength.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#107Julia for data science is not as nearly as true. The landscape of data science or machine learning is shifting so fast because of the recent deep learning revolution, which, IMHO, makes some Julia's featured improvements a little awkward. If it anyway has to delegate the computation to something like GPU, then the goodie Julia has promised, like auto vectorization, are less important.
JS for frontend...Is python ever used in frontend?
Only Go is worthy mention here. Yes, Go has some goodies in terms of performance, so it will eat up some Python's share in server-side programming, which I won't deny.
TL;DR: Python is on rise as the dominant language for data science, which I didn't think any other language can challenge it in short time. It will still be used/favored in light to middle complexity web services depends on tastes.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#108Quite contrarily, I've seen an increasing amount of Python usage in enterprise software, especially analytics applications. More and more job postings are starting to mention Python, and the web frameworks associated with it (Django, Flask, etc.) are more popular than ever.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#109http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index....
Python is 5th place after the three C's and one J.
Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?
#110Python, as a language and a community, seems to focus more on producing code than marketing. This is an observation, not a judgment on Python or other languages.
Look more at what you want to implement, then see if Python makes sense as a language.