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Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by the_ancient »

Houshalter wrote: post #49

Please read this: https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2016/pre-1976 And also look at the graphic on this page: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-mi... Copyright serves a legitimate purpose. I doubt there would be many big budget games or movies produced without some degree of protection. The purpose of copyright is to provide an incentive to produce creative works. But it also needs…

>> The purpose of copyright is to provide an incentive to produce creative works

False, the purpose, and only reason for copy right is to promote the useful sciences, all other reasons are UnConstitutional (from a US Stand point anyway)

The Surprising History of Copyright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhBpI13dxkI

http://questioncopyright.org/learn

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by i573323 »

nness wrote: post #2

I find it startling that, with the current terms of copyright, no music I'm listening to today or even in the last decade will be in the public domain before I die.

It's life of the author + 70 years so even if Disney no longer extends the copyright it won't be available in the public domain before your children die.

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by Bjartr »

4bpp wrote: post #63
Buttons840 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like this is the real problem we should use technology to solve. How can we make it more expensive to buy politicians?

It is fairly self-evident that we can't get purely self-interested and sufficiently coordinated with anyone who could displace them from their positions (in the sense that they value keeping their own bribes over denying their opponents bribes) politicians to support any measure that would actually make them no longer receive bribes. If one of the two assumptions above fails: assuming we can legally define what exact…

The potential problem is that now you've created one of those loophole things. Now publically bribe the official n/105 of what you actually want, and it's totally legal!

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by raverbashing »

Buttons840 wrote: post #44
scotty79 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians don't get educated. They get bought. Do you have as much money as copyright industry? No? Then, no, you can't have your sensible laws. You'll have theirs. The only action you can take is to ignore those unenforcible.

Seems like this is the real problem we should use technology to solve. How can we make it more expensive to buy politicians?

No

1 - If you make them more expensive then only the truly wealthy will be able to buy them. Yes, they exist

2 - Corruption is a matter mainly of personal ethics and perception of things around you. Of course it's hard to turn down heavily compensated engagements or other types of 'incentives' given by big players. Especially when everybody does it. It's really an issue of Game Theory

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by zodiac »

eggy wrote: post #4

I am more distressed that a work by a German, at the time stateless in the Netherlands, that long ago, and given the global importance of such a work, that the U.S. even has the copyright. The explanation in Wikimedia I understand clearly, but I do not acept it.

The US doesn't "have the copyright", the author or her heirs etc owns the copyright under US law

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by artichokeheart »

slg wrote: post #25
magicfractal wrote: post #6

That's barbaric. That's why civil disobedience is the only adequate answer to the current overreach of copyright in the united states. It's up to us, technologists, to create and disseminate tools to help out in the dismantlement of an absurd system that is obsolete in the digital age.

This logic is the reason why we have so many archaic laws surrounding the technology. Too often our community simply decides it is easier to ignore the law in question than trying to fight it and so we withdraw ourselves from the debate. It isn't our job as technologist to build tools to circumvent the law. It is our job as technologist to educate politicians and the greater population as a whole why these issues are…

"It isn't our job as technologist to build tools to circumvent the law."

That job is done CC-BY-SA. Your work (and derivatives) under this licence is guaranteed by copyright laws to be free to use, remix and resell (provided those rights are passed on) for your life plus 70 years.

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by tome »

Lots of rage here against the US government, little rage against the Anne Frank Fonds that actually asserts the copyright.

If you really feel so strongly then go and rail against the foundation who could transfer the book into the public domain with least a million times (literally) less difficulty than it would take to get US copyright law changed to have the same effect.

http://www.annefrank.ch/qa-en.html

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by zoise »

tome wrote: post #108

Lots of rage here against the US government, little rage against the Anne Frank Fonds that actually asserts the copyright. If you really feel so strongly then go and rail against the foundation who could transfer the book into the public domain with least a million times (literally) less difficulty than it would take to get US copyright law changed to have the same effect. http://www.annefrank.ch/qa-en.html

Thank you for this gesture of support for identity.

What is rare, is empathy for the trauma of s/cop/ying.

Anger and language for this kind of term (a form of abuse) is important to justify literally, and trigger emotional correlary.

Re: Wikimedia removes the Diary of Anne Frank due to copyright law

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Post by mtgx »

tome wrote: post #108

Lots of rage here against the US government, little rage against the Anne Frank Fonds that actually asserts the copyright. If you really feel so strongly then go and rail against the foundation who could transfer the book into the public domain with least a million times (literally) less difficulty than it would take to get US copyright law changed to have the same effect. http://www.annefrank.ch/qa-en.html

Well you know what they say when it comes to patents, too? "Hate the game, not the player".

But I'm fair, and I think we should hate both.

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