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Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by dingdingdang »

Ah, the fun (irony here). Before user-end computing can regain a semblance of sensibility we will need to move towards guaranteed secure sandbox environments for apps that allow historical re-use of earlier versions.

What is happening at the moment is that IMMENSE quantities of skill development and time is continually flushed away everytime Google/Microsoft/Take-your-pick-software-company decides to retire or dramatically rewrite an app. The situation is even wilder in the closed gardens (Android/IOS) and cloud/web-only where perfectly fine software disappears overnight and then.. that's it. Wake up, we're throwing our mental resources down the drain on a completely unprecedented scale because no systemic solution to this issue exists!!

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by Gracana »

sergiotapia wrote: post #83

My wife and I take a lot of pictures on our smartphones. What service can I pay for that will: - Automatically upload our pictures from our smartphone - Keep them private, viewable only to use, or family members. - Nice gallery feature. - Easy to export all data in one go. I will pay cold hard cash for this. My wife will decapitate me if I lose our backup pictures of our kids when they were babies.

My Windows phone with OneDrive integration does this really nicely, minus the gallery feature (though there's probably a solution for that online or something, I just haven't looked.) I really like the fact that I can take pictures of stuff on the shop floor, walk back to my work PC, and the photos are already synced.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by muglug »

barney54 wrote: post #130

I really hate this decision--and I love Google Photos and own Lightroom. Picasso has been one of my favorite products for years. It is simple and just works. But because it's not online, Google now hated it. Once upon a time there was a company who claimed their motto was "don't be evil." I really wish they wouldn't have changed.

> Once upon a time there was a company who claimed their motto was "don't be evil." I really wish they wouldn't have changed.

Woah, that's some intense hyperbole. Whatever else Google has done, it's not "evil" to stop providing updates to a product that helps people organise their photos.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by jbarham »

sergiotapia wrote: post #83

My wife and I take a lot of pictures on our smartphones. What service can I pay for that will: - Automatically upload our pictures from our smartphone - Keep them private, viewable only to use, or family members. - Nice gallery feature. - Easy to export all data in one go. I will pay cold hard cash for this. My wife will decapitate me if I lose our backup pictures of our kids when they were babies.

> My wife will decapitate me if I lose our backup pictures of our kids when they were babies.

The best way to preserve photos is to print them. Prints can last decades if not centuries with no need to actively maintain them other than throwing them in a shoebox.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by JBReefer »

aethertap wrote: post #123
Sanddancer wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a rather large collection of large photo images. Images which I can and do want to work on, crop, tune brightness, contrast, etc, before publishing them. Webapps right now are amazingly primitive and crude for even the most basic of workflows, especially when you're working with raw images. Additionally, in order to save the images I want how I created them, I'd have to pay a non-insubstantial amount of mone…

I'm not a photo power user like you are by any means, but I've been using darktable[1] quite a bit lately and I've gotten to where I like it. Here's the blurb from their front page: "darktable is an open source photography workflow application and RAW developer. A virtual lighttable and darkroom for photographers. It manages your digital negatives in a database, lets you view them through a zoomable lighttable and en…

Darktable isn't half as useful as Picasa for photo management, and the UI is awful. It does have some nice editing features, but it's a very different product.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by sergiotapia »

grahamburger wrote: post #90
sergiotapia wrote: post #83

My wife and I take a lot of pictures on our smartphones. What service can I pay for that will: - Automatically upload our pictures from our smartphone - Keep them private, viewable only to use, or family members. - Nice gallery feature. - Easy to export all data in one go. I will pay cold hard cash for this. My wife will decapitate me if I lose our backup pictures of our kids when they were babies.

We use Google Photos for exactly this. We have an account that is separate from our personal accounts that we share. That account is on all of our devices and all photos upload to it directly. We pay for 1TB of storage ($10/month) Easy to share albums w/ fam and friends. Also crazy good search - like ' photos of [son's name] and [wife's name] at the beach in may' will return photos of ... exactly that. With no taggin…

Actually I think for my use case Apple Photos is the better option. Comes installed on my iMac and iphones. Family sharing, and has a more tiered approach to pricing (I don't need 1TB right now) - $0.99 for 50GB/month.

Apple Photos uploads things automatically every time, face tagging, place/moments tagging automatically, it rocks. This HN thread was amazing, I found Apple Photos!

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by mark_l_watson »

Google Photos is OK so I don't mind Picasa going away (I hadn't used the desktop app in years).

While having services cancelled is troublesome, for photos I have my smartphone backup up everything to Google Photos, Microsoft Azure, and Dropbox. Copy the eggs and store in three different baskets.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by prodigal_erik »

ikeboy wrote: post #54

I feel like companies that shut a product down should release source code. Then people who still want to use it can continue development. If the company doesn't offer it anymore, why do they need to keep the code secret?

That's like trying to move a fully locked-in AWS service to your own hardware. Probably all of its dependencies are Google cloud infrastructure and you have to rewrite the client layer to replace them with anything open.

Re: Moving on from Picasa

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Post by CaptSpify »

jbob2000 wrote: post #52
Sanddancer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google photos doesn't have a desktop app. Being able to sort pics on a desktop is just as important, if not moreso, as being able to sort pics on the web. Not everything needs to be, nor should be, a pure webapp.

That's kind of Google's modus operandi though, isn't it? They don't make desktop apps unless there is a distinct need for it (Google Earth, for example). They are all about the web!

I think that's the complaint though: Why take a perfectly fine working desktop application, move it to the web, then remove the desktop side?

Presumably, if I wanted the web version, I would have started with the web version.

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