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Sub-subtitle being "human beings utterly unable to overcome base impulses despite higher order brain functions", then?
No, just the ones in the cherrypicked examples for this article, perhaps.
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This is her life. She can't stop the guys from hitting on her, short of doing awful things like downplaying her looks or hiding herself away. I wear a suit and tie to work every day. I didn't really understand her position until I started job hunting. I like wearing suits. I own five of them, three are custom made. Now I have to make a decision. Do I wear a suit and tie to my in-person job interviews? Coders seem to…
How is downplaying one's looks "awful" or "doing violence to yourself"? When we wear non-practical clothes (e.g. anything besides athletic wear or comfy cargo pants), the entire purpose is to cause other humans to respond to us in a way that we find favorable. I recently purchased a slim red pants designed to convey a) that I'm a moderately creative type and b) that I have a nice ass. The net result is that I get des…
"I, and she, would rather deal with the consequences of being really attractive than to stop."
There should be no consequences to how you look, in general, but especially not the kind of consequences that women have to deal with.
Some people (probably most people) don't wear clothes just to get a reaction from others. They wear clothes because they just like them, and don't expect, and should not be forced to comply with, unwanted attention from anyone, simply because of how they choose to dress. vinceguidry stated as much, but then seemed to just go "oh well, that's how things are I guess."
The "real answer" of "what should I do" about being treated this way is to fight this misconception that unwanted behavior is simply expected and has to be either accepted or you have to change your looks. Nobody should have to change how they look to prevent being mistreated. This is not an acceptable choice, and you should not put up with it, nor should anyone.
And as far as comparing yourselves to women's experiences, yes, you may both get "undesireable attention" for the clothes you both choose to wear. But this treatment is not even remotely like the abuse women receive just for wearing a skirt, or having the audacity to have big breasts or a nice butt or a pretty face.
While you are welcome to have your own opinion, lumping your own experiences in with theirs and expressing an opinion about both as if they were one experience is not only factually inaccurate, it prevents discussion about the issue at hand, which is women receive unfair and undesireable treatment from men.
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This is her life. She can't stop the guys from hitting on her, short of doing awful things like downplaying her looks or hiding herself away. I wear a suit and tie to work every day. I didn't really understand her position until I started job hunting. I like wearing suits. I own five of them, three are custom made. Now I have to make a decision. Do I wear a suit and tie to my in-person job interviews? Coders seem to…
How is downplaying one's looks "awful" or "doing violence to yourself"? When we wear non-practical clothes (e.g. anything besides athletic wear or comfy cargo pants), the entire purpose is to cause other humans to respond to us in a way that we find favorable. I recently purchased a slim red pants designed to convey a) that I'm a moderately creative type and b) that I have a nice ass. The net result is that I get des…
Subtitle "experiment reveals that organism's behaviour is influenced by most important driver for genetic survival".
Sub-subtitle being "human beings utterly unable to overcome base impulses despite higher order brain functions", then?
A lot of the problems in the current culture wars are due to this idea that sexual activity is just vile. This generates repression, which generates anger and misunderstanding on both sides. Maybe we should try giving a bit more respectability to these "base" impulses, and learn how to live with them openly, rather than trying to pretend they don't exist.
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People are sensitive. They snap at the smallest hint that their behavior is wrong. Even if the behavior is only mildly inappropriate.
The problem is that society equates being sexist with being evil or bad, the actions of sexist people as being inherently evil, and the words and opinions of sexist people as dismissable out-of-hand. So when you point out a sexist action the target of your comment interprets that comment as you saying, "You are evil. Your actions are evil and anything you say is not true." The truth is that even well meaning people w…
Even where blame is explicitly not placed on anyone, people tend to go on the defensive as soon as you point out that their actions have unintended or un-thought-of consequences.
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How is downplaying one's looks "awful" or "doing violence to yourself"? When we wear non-practical clothes (e.g. anything besides athletic wear or comfy cargo pants), the entire purpose is to cause other humans to respond to us in a way that we find favorable. I recently purchased a slim red pants designed to convey a) that I'm a moderately creative type and b) that I have a nice ass. The net result is that I get des…
I think you and vinceguidry are really missing the point. "I, and she, would rather deal with the consequences of being really attractive than to stop." There should be no consequences to how you look, in general, but especially not the kind of consequences that women have to deal with. Some people (probably most people) don't wear clothes just to get a reaction from others. They wear clothes because they just like t…
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Sub-subtitle being "human beings utterly unable to overcome base impulses despite higher order brain functions", then?
The concept of "base" impulses and a hierarchy of value in body functions (intellect is "high", reproduction and digestion are "low") is a terrible remain of late Victorian / early Fascism periods. We are not holy souls trapped in a dirty world of temptation for the benefit of some higher power: we are (social) animals who evolved to be smarter and more flexible than all other animals. A lot of the problems in the cu…
Sexual activity is awesome, when it's between two people who both actually want it. I think you'll find that most of the people you're vilifying agree.
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This is her life. She can't stop the guys from hitting on her, short of doing awful things like downplaying her looks or hiding herself away. I wear a suit and tie to work every day. I didn't really understand her position until I started job hunting. I like wearing suits. I own five of them, three are custom made. Now I have to make a decision. Do I wear a suit and tie to my in-person job interviews? Coders seem to…
How is downplaying one's looks "awful" or "doing violence to yourself"? When we wear non-practical clothes (e.g. anything besides athletic wear or comfy cargo pants), the entire purpose is to cause other humans to respond to us in a way that we find favorable. I recently purchased a slim red pants designed to convey a) that I'm a moderately creative type and b) that I have a nice ass. The net result is that I get des…
That's exactly my point. But note that women don't really have this option. Men will hit on them no matter how much they downplay.
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The concept of "base" impulses and a hierarchy of value in body functions (intellect is "high", reproduction and digestion are "low") is a terrible remain of late Victorian / early Fascism periods. We are not holy souls trapped in a dirty world of temptation for the benefit of some higher power: we are (social) animals who evolved to be smarter and more flexible than all other animals. A lot of the problems in the cu…
Forcing your sexuality on somebody else in a context other than one where they desire it is terrible, whether or not sex is a good thing in general. Sexual activity is awesome, when it's between two people who both actually want it. I think you'll find that most of the people you're vilifying agree.
How will you know if the other party desires it without showing your intentions?