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Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by jbob2000 »

tyingq wrote: post #21

I suppose this means dropping it altogether (like from Chrome) can't be too far away. My only regret with that would be that we use flash as a way to allow one-button copy to the clipboard (using this http://zeroclipboard.org/ ). We had tried non-flash solutions, but none of them worked. This sounds like it might work https://clipboardjs.com/ , so I guess I'll be adding a backlog item to look at it.

We use clipboard.js in our product, it was the perfect replacement for flash copy. I highly recommend it, our users were none the wiser when we swapped it out.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by jpwgarrison »

Sophira wrote: post #107
sparky_ wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also do this. Firefox is my primary browser but I have Chrome installed solely to view flash-based video sites.

I think I'm missing something. Why not just install the Flash player from Adobe?

I think everyone got most of my reasons covered below, but here they are: no need to manage updates, smaller security surface, battery life, fan noise. I typically browse with Firefox Nightly, and without flash installed globally I get HTML5 or whatever a site wants to offer me if I don't advertise flash compatibility. If I hit some must-have flash I have a key combo that opens the current tab in Chrome.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by tdsamardzhiev »

bambax wrote: post #109
Animats wrote: post #3

I've blocked Google ads for so long I didn't realize they had been allowing Flash ads.

I bought a new Windows laptop last year. Of course the first thing I did was open IE and search for "download chrome". Stupidly, I clicked on the first link, which was a Google ad for Chrome bundled with some malware. Spent the next few hours getting rid of said malware. I've used adblock (ublock) for a long time, but there was always a little bit of guilt associated with it; that episode cleared the guilt, completel…

The web can be scary without adblocker. Many people have given similar examples here lately. Here's one from me:

I have a certain addiction I cannot control. Tried everything possible without any success at all. It's not as dangerous as drugs, but it's also related to buying a lot of expensive stuff. So, when I disable adblock, every website spams the hell out of me with ads related to my addiction.

This is nasty! And disgusting. I'm sure I'm not alone. Also there's probably a huge number of people that get influenced to smaller extent and don't pay attention to it (because it doesn't ruin their lives, y'know).

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Post by cpncrunch »

HappyTypist wrote: post #117
sandworm101 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on the tracking. They are far more advanced than simple cookies these days. Some do use javascript to load things and/or report back without resorting to easily-deletable cookies. Whether something qualifies as malicious or not is a matter of opinion. Imho any tracking attempt by unnamed third parties (ie without my say so) is evil.

For example, Chrome keeps Google analytics connections open for 4 minutes since the last request, even cross sites. This is a cookie less, IP less of uniquely identifying a user.

That is for analytics, not adverts. Google adverts only uses cookies to track users AFAIK.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by jedberg »

yohui wrote: post #98
jedberg wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Chrome Canary, which doesn't have flash at all, and it seems that most sites automatically switch to HTML5. Sometimes I'll go to a site in Safari or Chrome and and the flash won't play, but then I load it up in Canary and it works. I don't understand why those same sites don't just start with html5 if they already support it anyway.

Chrome Canary has Flash. Do you mean Chromium?

No I mean Chrome Canary. But I've messed with the settings in chrome://flags/ to disable it and enable default html5.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by sparky_ »

Sophira wrote: post #107
sparky_ wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also do this. Firefox is my primary browser but I have Chrome installed solely to view flash-based video sites.

I think I'm missing something. Why not just install the Flash player from Adobe?

I really don't like flash. It's full of security holes and its primary uses annoy the living hell out of me. So I only use a browser that has it when it's on my terms.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by manigandham »

ktRolster wrote: post #37
manigandham wrote: post #6

This is great progress. Google being the biggest ad network and going with a complete ban is probably the only way to move things forward but glad to see it finally being done.

It sounds like great progress.......until you realize that Google uses Flash everywhere in their own APIs

Progress = forward movement towards something. This is still great progress, regardless of how much there is left to do. Chrome was even the first browser to stop playing lots of flash ads months ago.
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