Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
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Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#2The mandatory 52 hours spent logged into the course requirement hearkens back to this recent discussion on occupational licensing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11054527
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#3Another source[1] had more info about "The Macro":
Many of our California sales representatives received access to a software tool called a “Macro” that may have allowed them to complete mandatory online pre-licensing education courses offered by a third-party test preparation provider in less than the legally required 52 total hours. The Macro functioned to keep a person logged into the course and prevented the person from being logged out for inactivity. The Macro did not advance through the required material or quizzes in the education course -- the Macro only kept the person logged in. The Macro only pertained to the prelicensing education course and did not affect the broker exam taken later. Use of the Macro enabled -- but did not cause -- a person to spend less than the 52 hours of required time in the prelicensing course.
Ok, I have no judgement about the morals of this but I think the "hacker" mentality is hilarious.
I was at a Fortune 100 company that had an obligatory "security training" webcast that you had to watch and then at the end, answer some test questions. This was required to get a door badge and network id. Well, one programmer simply wrote a script to "watch" the video and automatically answer the questions. The manager knew we all used it and condoned it because the security video was out-of-date and irrelevant.
I can see someone at Zenefits using that mentality and justifying it because skipping the training material gave them no benefit to passing the actual exam.
[1]http://www.businessinsider.com/zenefits-using-secret-fake-tr...
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#4The BuzzFeed Article on Sacks' memo was written/submitted first and is more comprehensive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11083597
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#5The BuzzFeed Article on Sacks' memo was written/submitted first and is more comprehensive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11083597
HN seems to have what amounts to a systematic ban on buzzfeed, even though their news org helped break this story (and many others).
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#6The mandatory 52 hours spent logged into the course requirement hearkens back to this recent discussion on occupational licensing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11054527
Its the same kind of restriction that would tie programmer pay to lines of code written.
I understand it though to some extent - its more of a "cheating prevention" program, but I'll bet a very very very high percentage of test takers would find it a very large waste of time.
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#7https://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/
> Some examples of ethical behavior we expect from founders are:
> ...
> - Not using misleading, illegal or dishonest sales tactics.
> ...
Does this mean Parker is no longer a YC Founder, if the allegations turn out to be true?
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#8The BuzzFeed Article on Sacks' memo was written/submitted first and is more comprehensive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11083597
HN seems to have what amounts to a systematic ban on buzzfeed, even though their news org helped break this story (and many others).
There are several highly voted and discussed Buzzfeed articles in just the last couple days:
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=buzzfeed&sort=byDate&prefix&pa...
The previous increment of the Zenefits saga was one of them.
I guess given that many of their articles aren't real topical here there is probably a penalty for the site, but it doesn't stop everything.
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#9The mandatory 52 hours spent logged into the course requirement hearkens back to this recent discussion on occupational licensing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11054527
However arbitrary or dumb it might be, it's still a rather low bar.
edit: which I think might not sound how I intend it. I meant to get at it not requiring a great deal of investment of time or other resources to become an insurance broker.
Re: Zenefits Software Helped Brokers Cheat On Licensing Process
#10https://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/ > Some examples of ethical behavior we expect from founders are: > ... > - Not using misleading, illegal or dishonest sales tactics. > ... Does this mean Parker is no longer a YC Founder, if the allegations turn out to be true?
I have a feeling it doesn't exactly work that way... How would someone be un-YC'd?