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How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by javery »

maxklein wrote: post #23
patio11 wrote: post #15

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I'm confused then, because it seems from your post that you say the first option is difficult unless you're a US-based MIT-educated elite startup founder Twitter-chasing wunderkid with VC money coming out your ears and good writing ability. At the risk of stating the obvious, I am not a US-based MIT-educated elite startup founder Twitter-chasing wunderkid with VC money coming out my ears. Nor do I think any of these…

I'm not saying it is impossible to write and sell good software and keep improving it. I'm saying that a lot of people have tried it and do not have the neccessary advice and reach to make the software successful. Look at all the Review my startup posts. I have only ever seen a handful actually become successful. Most just seem to fade off. I'm not saying you NEED to be from that group to do it successfully. But it i…

That's because most of the Review my startup posts are really "check out my weekend project I threw together". You can get all the advice you need through great books and online content, and reach is simply a matter of building up your online presence through a good blog, open source projects, etc.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by javery »

maxklein wrote: post #38
sabat wrote: post #33

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Max is proposing that it isn't that difficult for a programmer to find a way to make $1/day. Max -- care to elucidate?

If you want to make $1 a day, go search for a keyword. Like Owls. Then find a bunch of videos of owls in YouTube, put them on the site and call the site OwlVideo.com. In a week you will be making $1 a day. Or if you prefer to program for the desktop - go wrap ffmpeg and make an AVI to MP4 converter. Def make $30 in sales in a month. Or if you prefer to program for the web, make something that parses Apples XML of new…

So these might be great ways to make a little bit of money, but they don't really create value (except for the theme). Creating a successful startup should be more about creating value then making money, if you create value the money will come. When you think about success do you define it as money or building something people use and love (and also makes you money). If you want to make a cheap buck there are plenty of ways to do it without providing value. Go create a trash blog on a popular keyword, become a domain squatter, etc. But I want to create value and build something people will use and enjoy using.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by sabat »

maxklein wrote: post #38
sabat wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Max is proposing that it isn't that difficult for a programmer to find a way to make $1/day. Max -- care to elucidate?

If you want to make $1 a day, go search for a keyword. Like Owls. Then find a bunch of videos of owls in YouTube, put them on the site and call the site OwlVideo.com. In a week you will be making $1 a day. Or if you prefer to program for the desktop - go wrap ffmpeg and make an AVI to MP4 converter. Def make $30 in sales in a month. Or if you prefer to program for the web, make something that parses Apples XML of new…

they don't really create value

Maybe they do -- it depends on who's judging. To use Max's example, let's say I am casually interested in owls. Seriously, there are such people. I'm 60, I am on the internet but am somewhat uneasy with how to use it, and I like owls. Somehow, I find Max's owl video site. I like it! Maybe I even see an ad and click and buy. Maybe. But to me, finding the site and being entertained by his collection of owl videos -- that has value.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by javery »

sabat wrote: post #43
maxklein wrote: post #38

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If you want to make $1 a day, go search for a keyword. Like Owls. Then find a bunch of videos of owls in YouTube, put them on the site and call the site OwlVideo.com. In a week you will be making $1 a day. Or if you prefer to program for the desktop - go wrap ffmpeg and make an AVI to MP4 converter. Def make $30 in sales in a month. Or if you prefer to program for the web, make something that parses Apples XML of new…

they don't really create value Maybe they do -- it depends on who's judging. To use Max's example, let's say I am casually interested in owls. Seriously, there are such people. I'm 60, I am on the internet but am somewhat uneasy with how to use it, and I like owls. Somehow, I find Max's owl video site. I like it! Maybe I even see an ad and click and buy. Maybe. But to me, finding the site and being entertained by his…

Yeah, the people who created the owl videos are providing value, youtube is providing value by making them available, the owl site is just leaching off of that to make a buck.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by sabat »

conesus wrote: post #36
sabat wrote: post #32

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I'm not sure your conclusion necessarily follows what he's proposing. He's saying: find 400 things that each make $1/day -- it's a thought experiment as much as it is a proposition, BTW. Some people would certainly make 400 spam blogs or something else equally useless. I don't think that was the author's intention, though. I wish I could personally say that every single thing I do has my heart and soul in it. I can't…

My conclusion stems from his primary example: A collection of ninja videos slathered with adsense. It's half-way to a spamblog, but he considers it something to be proud of.

he considers it something to be proud of

I think he considers it that only in the sense that someone else may find it entertaining.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by sabat »

maxklein wrote: post #38
sabat wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Max is proposing that it isn't that difficult for a programmer to find a way to make $1/day. Max -- care to elucidate?

If you want to make $1 a day, go search for a keyword. Like Owls. Then find a bunch of videos of owls in YouTube, put them on the site and call the site OwlVideo.com. In a week you will be making $1 a day. Or if you prefer to program for the desktop - go wrap ffmpeg and make an AVI to MP4 converter. Def make $30 in sales in a month. Or if you prefer to program for the web, make something that parses Apples XML of new…

the owl site is just leaching off of that to make a buck

Editorship -- or, if you're more cynical, "leeching". There really is value in collecting other people's works. I am convinced that it's more than mere leeching.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by gcheong »

sabat wrote: post #33
icey wrote: post #2

I think the bigger hurdle for most people is getting from $0 a day to $1 a day. Replicating success isn't as hard as finding success.

Max is proposing that it isn't that difficult for a programmer to find a way to make $1/day. Max -- care to elucidate?

Well, I have 2 apps on the app store right now. One of them makes nothing, it's not free, just does not make any sales and one makes just about $1 a day (after I raised the price from .99 to 1.99). Both apps are pretty simple, are in the same category (healthcare and fitness) and I've done nothing to promote them.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by qjz »

javery wrote: post #44
sabat wrote: post #43

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they don't really create value Maybe they do -- it depends on who's judging. To use Max's example, let's say I am casually interested in owls. Seriously, there are such people. I'm 60, I am on the internet but am somewhat uneasy with how to use it, and I like owls. Somehow, I find Max's owl video site. I like it! Maybe I even see an ad and click and buy. Maybe. But to me, finding the site and being entertained by his…

Yeah, the people who created the owl videos are providing value, youtube is providing value by making them available, the owl site is just leaching off of that to make a buck.

Aggregation has always had value (the Bible, Familiar Quotes, Readers Digest, The Big Picture, etc.).

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by phreanix »

kiba wrote: post #31
ryanwaggoner wrote: post #6

This is an interesting post, and I'm eager to hear what other people who have spent more time in the startup scene think of it. Here's my thoughts: 1. I think I've seen the "two groups" that the post talks about, but I have begun to have serious doubts that they're as fatalistic as they're made out to be. For example: The in-crowd live in the U.S, they attended MIT or Berkeley, they write well, have interesting blogs…

Wikis are forever sustainable, even if it is horribly outdated. However, depending on the niche you occupied, you barely get enough money above your domain cost renewal. Beyond a certain point, it is not worth your time to invest in it. For me, it helps that I can wait a few year before bootstrapping my next website, along with freelance work. That wiki is still earning me money.

Just curious, as someone who is considering starting up a wiki, what is your revenue model? Just ads?
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