Google is banning Flash from its display ads • Hacker News Board

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by phpsupport » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:12 AM UTC

bambax wrote: post #109

Animats wrote: post #3

I've blocked Google ads for so long I didn't realize they had been allowing Flash ads.

I bought a new Windows laptop last year. Of course the first thing I did was open IE and search for "download chrome". Stupidly, I clicked on the first link, which was a Google ad for Chrome bundled with some malware. Spent the next few hours getting rid of said malware. I've used adblock (ublock) for a long time, but there was always a little bit of guilt associated with it; that episode cleared the guilt, completel…

bambax, its not malware. when you installed free software they created spam add-on in browser.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by phpsupport » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:13 AM UTC

erikrothoff wrote: post #108

arrty88 wrote: post #71

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i've blocked flash for so long, most ads dont display for me.

Good for you that they are moving to HTML5 then ;)

May be in bootstrap ;)

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by phpsupport » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:14 AM UTC

Sophira wrote: post #107

sparky_ wrote: post #93

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I also do this. Firefox is my primary browser but I have Chrome installed solely to view flash-based video sites.

I think I'm missing something. Why not just install the Flash player from Adobe?

don't need to install. Now its default in browser

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by ksec » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:15 AM UTC

( What took you so long? James. )

The sentence that came across my head when i read the title.

* Quote from the 007 movie Spectre

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by jamespo » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:17 AM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #90

finnn wrote: post #85

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How do you think Google makes money if not ads?

How do you not get sarcasm?

Normally there's an element of humour

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by HappyTypist » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:51 AM UTC

wdmeldon wrote: post #62

kentonv wrote: post #47

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For Google ads specifically? https://contributor.google.com/

That is...a lot more than I expected for what you're getting.

It's not. Google doesn't control all ads on the web. It's basically "hide 90% of Google ads".

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by HappyTypist » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 8:57 AM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #91

cpncrunch wrote: post #86

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Ad tracking uses cookies, not javascript, and isn't "malicious" as such. If you're worried about that, just disable cookies and/or javascript.

It depends on the tracking. They are far more advanced than simple cookies these days. Some do use javascript to load things and/or report back without resorting to easily-deletable cookies. Whether something qualifies as malicious or not is a matter of opinion. Imho any tracking attempt by unnamed third parties (ie without my say so) is evil.

For example, Chrome keeps Google analytics connections open for 4 minutes since the last request, even cross sites. This is a cookie less, IP less of uniquely identifying a user.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by rplnt » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 9:10 AM UTC

kentonv wrote: post #77

spacehome wrote: post #68

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Wow. Their highest tier is $10/month to see 25-50% fewer ads? That seems a bit steep for the minimal reduction you're seeing.

My understanding is that the system literally works by buying out your own ads, as if you were an advertiser targeting specifically yourself with ads that have no content. The effect is thus that you pay what advertisers would otherwise have paid. But if some advertiser bids $100 for one ad (this actually happens!), then Google is going to show that ad. As such, the pricing structure, while maybe overcomplicated, is…

And they still got to track you. And you pay for that. Great deal.

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by rplnt » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 9:12 AM UTC

josteink wrote: post #105

jpwgarrison wrote: post #42

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re: dropping [flash] from Chrome - NOOOOO this is what Chrome is for! The only flash I have is the built in to chrome flash.

I'm not going to cry rivers over this, but yeah, the only reason I have Chrome installed is for sites insisting on running flash stuff. If Chrome stops supporting Flash I honestly have no need for it.

> I have Chrome installed is for sites insisting on running flash stuff

Same here, I use it for Facebook. But Facebook servers HTML5 video instead of Flash to Chrome. What a world!

Re: Google is banning Flash from its display ads

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Post by Sophira » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 9:40 AM UTC

phpsupport wrote: post #113

Sophira wrote: post #107

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I think I'm missing something. Why not just install the Flash player from Adobe?

don't need to install. Now its default in browser

Not in Firefox, and the GP said they're only keeping Chrome around for Flash.