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Post by ascorbic »

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #185
bri3d wrote: post #69

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VSCO is definitely a phenomenon amongst teenagers, regardless of the product placement possibilities in the article. I'd actually have rather seen an article on that, because I find it fascinating that a service without any of the Skinner-box gratification buttons ("like" "retweet" "share" "comment") has taken off in such a big way.

VSCO has a rather large following among the prosumer crowd, most of the Apple "Shot on the iPhone 6" ads mention VSCO and a photographer friend of mine uses it on his iPad with his 5D on the go. While I haven't used it myself, its certainly been name checked quite a bit and its success is largely due to it being a more empowered Instagram on the photography side.

I know pro photographers who use VSCO to edit their iPhone shots to upload to Instagram, as the tools are so much more powerful than IG's own. It's a great app.

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Post by cnr »

cubano wrote: post #33

I am the very proud father of a 14yo girl whom I have turned into an teenaged IT guru over the years. She learned to read at age 3 using the very well done "Cat In The Hat" desktop program, and since then I have turned her on to everything from Gmail at age 6 to Ableton at 12. I've decided that Snapchat is where it ends for me/us last year...she needs something to be hers and her friends alone, without "Dad" poking i…

This "Cat In The Hat" app looks quite nice. Is it Mac/iOS only? I can't find version for Windows :(

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Post by ascorbic »

anon4 wrote: post #116
gavman wrote: post #29

It's amazing that at age 22 I've already seemingly "aged-out" of being an early adopter/power user of new social media (not that Snapchat is new, but I use it maybe once or twice a day and I've never even heard of "Triller" and "VSCO"). My 15 year old sister is always rolling her eyes telling me how to "correctly" use my existing social media apps and I've never heard of most of the new apps she's into.

I didn't know how to use Facebook when I was 18, so don't feel too bad. We grew up on IRC and PHPBB, social networks of fundamentally different make than the ones in use now. Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising.

There's still a huge number of very active phpBB-type bulletin boards out their, with all the usual drama. They turn up whenever you search for help on a random non-tech topic. I love to visit the world for a little bit. It's like walking into a real locals' pub, where the regulars are at the bar chatting to the landlord about the crazy stuff Dave got up to at the weekend. They're probably the same people who go home and post on their homebrew, beekeeping, classic car, medieval history etc, etc forums.

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Post by tomtoise »

tbabb wrote: post #298
pmlnr wrote: post #296

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> It is because everyone needs to be able to say and do things that aren't recorded. That go away. And kids need space to experiment and grow in ways they are not watched. I miss the old IRC. I do mean it, the world of emojis and stickers and selfies is too vibrant for me; IRC wasn't recorded, it was text, private and I do miss it. Still using it for IT and Open Source, but not for private stuff any more, because pri…

> IRC wasn't recorded Except by anyone in the room with logging enabled.

Much easier to plausibly deny it was you in IRC, with Snapchat etc, it's much harder to deny that you sent the photograph of yourself from your mobile device.

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Post by jensen123 »

rtl49 wrote: post #103

I think our distaste for this obvious misdirection of human attention goes beyond mere "kids these days" prejudice. SV startups,"social," "interconnectedness," this nonsense is creating an asinine, infantilized generation: easily manipulated, desperate for social acceptance, incapable of independent thought, and entirely beholden to the whims of mainstream society. This cutesy "adult finds himself going with the flow…

> this nonsense is creating an asinine, infantilized generation: easily manipulated, desperate for social acceptance, incapable of independent thought, and entirely beholden to the whims of mainstream society.

As far as I can tell, most people in any time period have been like this.

Desperate for social acceptance: There's that "keeping up with the Joneses" thing. Nothing new.

Incapable of independent thought: If most people in the past had been capable, mass movements like Christianity, Islam, Nazism, Communism etc. would never have caught on like they did.

Easily manipulated: Didn't aristocrats etc. manipulate peasants/serfs back in the Middle Ages?

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Post by ascorbic »

pixl97 wrote: post #68
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #50

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You are not the typical user. You can just get an unlimited tarif and be done with it.

> You can just get an unlimited tarif and be done with it. Um, if you're in the U.S. probably not. Most have some kind of limits even on 'unlimited' such as your connection goes to ISDN speed. Even my cable modem has a 350GB a month cap which I occasionally exceed.

I'm in the UK, and pay £33/m ($50) for unlimited 4G data, calls and texts, of which 12GB can be used for tethering. It includes roaming to 14 other countries at no extra cost. This is on a 1 month, SIM-only contract on Three. I think this is good value.

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Post by wobbleblob »

ceocoder wrote: post #47
cubano wrote: post #33

I am the very proud father of a 14yo girl whom I have turned into an teenaged IT guru over the years. She learned to read at age 3 using the very well done "Cat In The Hat" desktop program, and since then I have turned her on to everything from Gmail at age 6 to Ableton at 12. I've decided that Snapchat is where it ends for me/us last year...she needs something to be hers and her friends alone, without "Dad" poking i…

man this is scary for me, I'm about to have a baby girl (she already has a Gmail account), I know I'm far from the "dad doesn't get 'it'" phase, but it is still scary. Do you have any tips to make this transition easy?

Man, the age difference is what, 30-ish years? Of course you won't get it, and they won't 'get' your world. If you can comfortably relate to someone 30 years younger or older than you, something has gone wrong in your development.

Don't worry about it. You don't need to get it. You will hate her music, you will find her friends stupid children, she will think you're boring and no longer with it, and when she's grown up, you will annoy her with unwanted advice on how best to get around in the world of 20 years ago. It's an inevitable, normal part of life, not a problem.

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Post by ascorbic »

proc0 wrote: post #187

I'm laughing at all the people that "feel old". This kid is 13! Literally a child. If you're in your late 20's or 30's, you're not old, you're just not a child anymore. Snapchat is nothing that new. It's just communicating with your friends in a different way that before was not possible. It's like texting on steroids. I don't see the big deal, and I definitely don't like the fact that you can't save them. What's the…

In retrospect (I'm 36), I think I was a child until I was at least 30, and most of my friends were the same. I'm not sure if I still would be if I hadn't had kids.

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Post by mattlutze »

nawb wrote: post #133
howeyc wrote: post #86

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Indeed, sounds like Snapchat is using gaming techniques[1] for a social app. --- [1] http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/6/8544303/casino-slot-machine...

That's true, but the trophies and points are barely any value in the day-to-day. For example, in deciding to reply to a snap, the thought "My score's gonna increase if I do this" barely crosses the mind. It's always just about keeping the conversation. And since a lot of the conversation is filler that need not be saved forever, snaps have a unique position.

The bit of game theory they actively present is Seinfeld's "Don't Break the Chain" technique. Snapchat marks and elevates contacts you individually snap at at least once a day, moving those contacts into more-and-more personally named categories ("close friend", "best friends", etc).

That bit is right in your face and rewards you for increased use.

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