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Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by anon4 »

anon4 wrote: post #116
gavman wrote: post #29

It's amazing that at age 22 I've already seemingly "aged-out" of being an early adopter/power user of new social media (not that Snapchat is new, but I use it maybe once or twice a day and I've never even heard of "Triller" and "VSCO"). My 15 year old sister is always rolling her eyes telling me how to "correctly" use my existing social media apps and I've never heard of most of the new apps she's into.

I didn't know how to use Facebook when I was 18, so don't feel too bad. We grew up on IRC and PHPBB, social networks of fundamentally different make than the ones in use now. Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising.

P.S. as a corollary, if you were 14 today and on snapchat, you'd be one of the weird people she doesn't want to snapchat with and you'd be in the exact same position.

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Post by BWStearns »

steveoc64 wrote: post #257
TacticalTable wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if Snapchat is a direct reaction to the permanency of social media. Once schools/parents started teaching kids to be careful online, they moved to a service where it isn't as much of an issue.

How does anyone know for sure that all of that traffic (or at least the meta data related to the traffic) is not prepped for data mining on a per-user basis ? There would be obvious commercial advantage in doing this, just for starters. Data mining services like facebook gives you a solid picture of the interests and connections that the target person broadcasts publicaly. This is useful information, and it is exploi…

People get upset because Twitter and Facebook "mess with" their timelines, as if they were some fundamental natural component of the universe. The average person, even a young "digital native" has no concept of how their gadgets work, so while you might think "Oh, this pretty much has to be sitting on their server in a recoverable format" the average person thinks the picture lives only on their phone. They can't even get to the point of making an informed decision of whether or not the data they give up is worth the service received because they lack the models to understand what happens.

It's like wondering why someone who still thinks good and bad humors mediate health isn't worried about their cholesterol, there's literally not the machinery available to make that a concern. This is one of the biggest reasons that we should teach coding in schools. Even if you never write a line of code in anger, knowing vaguely what's going on at least gives you a chance to be a consenting participant in technologically mediated arrangements.

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Post by phpsupport »

yitchelle wrote: post #290
Moru wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest you talk to mothers too, not just fathers. They might have insights that are important for you too :-)

Great advice. Also add your own parents to the list.

Great advice

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Post by zem »

bri3d wrote: post #69
tajen wrote: post #18

There's product placement. He namedrops "Treller" and "VSCO". The article isn't "How to upgrade your style", it "How to become a Snapchat user." Even his conclusion is "I'll try more", just like you tell yur teacher when you've failed and you know you'll fail again. I don't doubt the person is authentic, but I wonder how much he has worked with BuzzFeed to tune the article. Still, 1. Snapchat's design is remarkable f…

VSCO is definitely a phenomenon amongst teenagers, regardless of the product placement possibilities in the article. I'd actually have rather seen an article on that, because I find it fascinating that a service without any of the Skinner-box gratification buttons ("like" "retweet" "share" "comment") has taken off in such a big way.

i'm just fascinated that i spend ages on facebook, twitter, reddit, hn and lobsters, and have never heard of VSCO before this. is there that little overlap between the demographics?

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Post by pmlnr »

Tactic wrote: post #52
Avalaxy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for being an old-ass as well, but wasn't snapchat created to send nudes to other people in a way that they are automatically erased and can't be saved? I don't know if people still use it like that, but do you feel comfortable letting your 12 years old daughter use something like that?

As an old-ass father of 3 that pokes here and there I can tell you that does happen. However, that is hardly the point of it. It is because everyone needs to be able to say and do things that aren't recorded. That go away. And kids need space to experiment and grow in ways they are not watched. Honestly, from what I can tell it is used far more for making funny faces and moments than anything else. Besides, if you ar…

> It is because everyone needs to be able to say and do things that aren't recorded. That go away. And kids need space to experiment and grow in ways they are not watched.

I miss the old IRC. I do mean it, the world of emojis and stickers and selfies is too vibrant for me; IRC wasn't recorded, it was text, private and I do miss it. Still using it for IT and Open Source, but not for private stuff any more, because private friends refuses to use it.

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Post by tallanvor »

sandworm101 wrote: post #233
cubano wrote: post #33

I am the very proud father of a 14yo girl whom I have turned into an teenaged IT guru over the years. She learned to read at age 3 using the very well done "Cat In The Hat" desktop program, and since then I have turned her on to everything from Gmail at age 6 to Ableton at 12. I've decided that Snapchat is where it ends for me/us last year...she needs something to be hers and her friends alone, without "Dad" poking i…

I'm biased by my perceptive (legal) but imho girls between 12 and 18 should not be allowed connected cameras. I've had too many conversations with horrified fathers and crying children after a disturbing image ends up somewhere it was never meant to be. There are just too many people, and I include cops in this, out there looking to get kids into serious trouble. I know that kids live a life in pictures, but that pub…

> And fyi for fathers: Do not share a phone with your daughter. Do not borrow her phone, nor lend her yours. Some pictures are fine to be in her possession but if found in your possession could destroy your world.

And the fact that you have to say that is a great example of what's wrong with the legal system in the US. Common sense about applying laws has been stripped away.

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Post by tbabb »

pmlnr wrote: post #296
Tactic wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an old-ass father of 3 that pokes here and there I can tell you that does happen. However, that is hardly the point of it. It is because everyone needs to be able to say and do things that aren't recorded. That go away. And kids need space to experiment and grow in ways they are not watched. Honestly, from what I can tell it is used far more for making funny faces and moments than anything else. Besides, if you ar…

> It is because everyone needs to be able to say and do things that aren't recorded. That go away. And kids need space to experiment and grow in ways they are not watched. I miss the old IRC. I do mean it, the world of emojis and stickers and selfies is too vibrant for me; IRC wasn't recorded, it was text, private and I do miss it. Still using it for IT and Open Source, but not for private stuff any more, because pri…

> IRC wasn't recorded

Except by anyone in the room with logging enabled.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

mschuster91 wrote: post #40

What in holy blazes, 60 gigabytes in a month just for one fucking stupid app? 1) what carrier does that girl have? And at what cost? With German internet prices, we'd look at a 500€ per month alone for data, not to mention other data using apps, calls, SMSes... 2) what the fuck, I use Netflix at home quite regularly and rarely exceed 50 GByte (I'm on a 50/5 VDSL so it isn't a lack of speed) of traffic. How many billi…

I didn't fully read the article but I've got wifi at home, wifi at work, wifi at uni. My phone automatically connects to all of 'm. Hell I've got wifi at some friends, even at the parents of my gf when I stayed over for a weekend.

So most of my data use is not from my phone's data plan. Did she specify it was?

That having been said, 60gb is a shitload and I think 1) it may not be true and 2) she's an outlier who uses snaps for scoring. While undoubtedly more people do that, most young people I know send a few snaps a day at most, not 40 over breakfast.

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